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  • Blackstarr
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    #61
    Originally posted by denium
    I don't hear Deontay Wilder on that clip, just some random youtuber.

    Lets be real here, AJ shat himself and had a panic attack when he faced up against Ruiz ffs, he was clearly terrified of Deontay Wilder, that's why Fury had to go to America to fight him and save the UK's reputation after AJ sullied it due to his ducking.
    GTFOH - save the UK’s reputation in who’s eyes? I bought the Wilder-Fury PPV and was obviously rooting for Fury but come on now, that fight was bought by 300k people in the UK and generated nowhere near the level of buzz as AJ’s win over Klitschko, or even his loss to Ruiz.

    Fury was the one that banished himself to America purely to make a name for himself, after promising that he’d never fight in the UK because he felt under appreciated (in his own very words). Let’s not pretend like he was some sort of shining knight sent to restore honour, when hardly anyone knew who he was.

    As for ducking Wilder, you know as well as anyone that Wilder was offered a two-fight deal to fight AJ as part of a three-fight package, which was far more lucrative than Fury’s own ESPN deal and far greater than what Wilder was offered to fight Fury. Get lost with your ducking talk - is it that impossible to root for a British heavyweight without crapping on other ones for no reason?

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      #62
      Originally posted by denium


      I've never heard as much rubbish in my life. AJ fans know that Tyson is going to destroy their idol, so they're pushing the Whyte fight so they get to see AJ hold on to his belts for a little while longer.

      Fury will destroy AJ & Whyte on the same night, he's levels above both of them.
      I'd rather see AJ destroy that fraud, but Whte has earned it and that's a great fight too, although probably not that competitive.

      If Wilder is out for an extended period (or is on his period), and AJ is fighting in December (Pulev - he doesn't duck mandatories), then who would you say Fury should fight?

      Lemme guess.....Franz Globblum, Mario Scarghetti, or some other nobodies that we've never heard of. You are living with your head up your arse mate - he won't fight Whyte, but he should.

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        #63
        If Fury is half the man he was in 2014-2015 when he schooled Chisora and Hammer he should win a very comfortable UD over Whyte. The Eddie Hearn Show has done a good job at convincing the world that Whyte is some super elite HW that's for sure.

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          #64
          Originally posted by champion4ever
          How many contenders have called out Wilder since he became the WBC heavyweight champion? I can only think of one and that is Luis Ortiz. Dillian Whyte doesn't count because he was the number one contender who ducked several Final elimination bouts to get to him.

          So what about the Joshua's, Martin's, Chisora's, Parker's, Takam's, Helenius', Wach's, Price's and the Klitschko's of the world? Why haven't they called Deontay Wilder out? Also, by the way Martin was offered $7 million to fight A.J.

          Wilder was barely scraping in $1.5 million a bout at the time. So how the fuck could Wilder offer him that kind of bread when he is not making that type of money himself?

          You are intelligent sir. Use your fucking common sense. The reason why these guys duck Wilder is because they want more money than Wilder can afford to pay them even though he is titleholder because they know he's too high risk. Therefore, they would all just rather face Joshua instead because that's where the gravy train is.
          I suggest you use your common sense as well you fool! How can you say Whyte doesn’t count?? You talk about obstacles being put in Wilder’s way to fight AJ, but it’s perfectly okay to do that with Whyte (e.g. BS 2nd mandatory eliminators) while Wilder decided to fight cans?

          Funny how you ignored my question about Klitschko - why did his handlers say in 2015 that he wouldn’t be rushed to fight Klitschko, and leave it to Fury to dethrone him that very same year? Is that not a duck??

          And gtfo with your $7m excuse..were most of those fighters not there before AJ burst on the scene, after only having his first pro fight in Oct 2013? And then once he did, how can fighting AJ for more money, more belts and more publicity be considered a duck for any of those fighters?? A duck is when you turn down career high money to fight for less against lesser fighters like Wilder loves to do.

          Anyway that’s what Wilder gets for fighting cans and not building a fan base, while AJ and Fury chased legacy defining fights. And despite this lack of pulling power, you still somehow saw it fit for Wilder to demand 50-50 with AJ and decline a $100m plus fight deal?

          I’d like to return the intelligent compliment, but you sir appear either completely dense or unbelievably biased beyond the point of reason.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Monzon99
            Dope. The big alabame fraud was offered $120 m to fight AJ and ran to fight Breazeale for peanuts instead because he knew haymon had breazeale rigged to dive. Wilder and his fraudsters pretended to want to fight AJ but they faked it and you got fooled. Dope.
            Get the fuck outta here. I admit that it is very bold to insert yourself in a middle of a negotiation when all the smoke has been cleared. When Wilder was free AJ didn't want shit to do with him.

            However, the moment that Wilder starting chasing Tyson Fury for an immediate rematch his cowardly ass resurfaces. Where was Joshua back in June, July and August of 2018 when Deontay Wilder was open, available and ready to fight him in the U.K for a flat fee with no guarantee purse?

            The fight would have happened and been easily made at DAZN had AJ signed where Wilder's name was and Wilder would have signed where Anthony Joshua's name was or if it was a flat 50/50 split.

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              #66
              Originally posted by denium
              I don't hear Deontay Wilder on that clip, just some random youtuber.

              Lets be real here, AJ shat himself and had a panic attack when he faced up against Ruiz ffs, he was clearly terrified of Deontay Wilder, that's why Fury had to go to America to fight him and save the UK's reputation after AJ sullied it due to his ducking.
              Pure trolling here fellah. Can't rationalize any of your lies.
              Wilder ducked, because he knew he was beaten.

              The End.

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                #67
                Originally posted by champion4ever
                How many contenders have called out Wilder since he became the WBC heavyweight champion? I can only think of one and that is Luis Ortiz. Dillian Whyte doesn't count because he was the number one contender who ducked several Final elimination bouts to get to him.

                So what about the Joshua's, Martin's, Chisora's, Parker's, Takam's, Helenius', Wach's, Price's and the Klitschko's of the world? Why haven't they called Deontay Wilder out? Also, by the way Martin was offered $7 million to fight A.J.

                Wilder was barely scraping in $1.5 million a bout at the time. So how the fuck could Wilder offer him that kind of bread when he is not making that type of money himself?

                You are intelligent sir. Use your fucking common sense. The reason why these guys duck Wilder is because they want more money than Wilder can afford to pay them even though he is titleholder because they know he's too high risk. Therefore, they would all just rather face Joshua instead because that's where the gravy train is.
                Whyte wasn’t ranked 1 when he challenged Wilder at first this was when AJ was trying to get Wilder himself , he didn’t get the silver belt until he defeated Helenius as well . He didn’t need to be in a mandatory spot to fight Wilder who was looking for an opponent but chose Ortiz twice over everyone in fights no one wanted .

                In some type of Order .

                Wilder declined 2 million to fight Briggs .

                Wilder declined 12.5 million to fight AJ

                Wilder declined 15 million to fight AJ

                Wilder declined a Parker fight but did it intelligently where it looked like it wasn’t possible,not sure what that offer was .

                Wilder declined 4/7 million to fight Whyte .

                Wilder declined 120 million to fight AJ .

                Wilders handlers ignored a 20 million offer from Mahkmudov wheather this could become anything is irrelevant, it shows Wilder is or was never avoided half the time Wilder fought guys who were outside the top 10 prior to fighting him so clearly offering Wilder anything is just a waste of time .

                Promoters put up the money so stating Wilder couldn’t put up 7 million for a title is not how the business works . If you think you can become a unified champion your handlers make offers which the fighters team handles not the fighter . Do you really think AJ pulled out 7 million to fight Martin in 2016 ? Come on, Ha
                Last edited by REDEEMER; 08-13-2020, 09:27 AM.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by 'b'
                  If Fury is half the man he was in 2014-2015 when he schooled Chisora and Hammer he should win a very comfortable UD over Whyte. The Eddie Hearn Show has done a good job at convincing the world that Whyte is some super elite HW that's for sure.
                  Only Matchroom casuals like Froch_uppercut thinks Whyte has any kind of chance against Fury.

                  Anyone who understands boxing knows that Fury would play with him, 12-0, with Whyte ending up in hospital after suffering a brutal beating.

                  Fury knows exactly how to deal with fat midgets like Shyte.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Froch_uppercut
                    Pure trolling here fellah. Can't rationalize any of your lies.
                    Wilder ducked, because he knew he was beaten.

                    The End.
                    Pure facts. Wilder would put AJ to sleep any day of the week even now.

                    Joshua has no chin and no powers of recovery. Wilder would shatter that glass jaw all over the ring.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Blackstarr
                      I suggest you use your common sense as well you fool! How can you say Whyte doesn’t count?? You talk about obstacles being put in Wilder’s way to fight AJ, but it’s perfectly okay to do that with Whyte (e.g. BS 2nd mandatory eliminators) while Wilder decided to fight cans?

                      Funny how you ignored my question about Klitschko - why did his handlers say in 2015 that he wouldn’t be rushed to fight Klitschko, and leave it to Fury to dethrone him that very same year? Is that not a duck??

                      And gtfo with your $7m excuse..were most of those fighters not there before AJ burst on the scene, after only having his first pro fight in Oct 2013? And then once he did, how can fighting AJ for more money, more belts and more publicity be considered a duck for any of those fighters?? A duck is when you turn down career high money to fight for less against lesser fighters like Wilder loves to do.

                      Anyway that’s what Wilder gets for fighting cans and not building a fan base, while AJ and Fury chased legacy defining fights. And despite this lack of pulling power, you still somehow saw it fit for Wilder to demand 50-50 with AJ and decline a $100m plus fight deal?

                      I’d like to return the intelligent compliment, but you sir appear either completely dense or unbelievably biased beyond the point of reason.
                      Whyte doesn't count because he was not his mandatory challenger at the time and besides he wanted undisputed with Anthony Joshua first. Dillian Whyte was used as a propaganda tool by Eddie Hearn in order to save Anthony Joshua from Deontay Wilder because he wasn't ready and afraid. Just ask Tyson Fury fans they'll tell you.

                      Klitschko was asked about fighting Deontay Wilder but he flatly turned him down. He was not in the least bit interested in fighting Wilder because there was not enough money in the pot to satisfy him like all the rest of the pretenders.

                      Those fighters including Anthony Joshua had every opportunity as Wilder did to become the WBC's World heavyweight champion but declined and Why? It's because they didn't want to get knocked out by Deontay

                      Which is why Wilder's name is never mentioned among them and he has to constantly face these cans who are willing to accept less money to fight him because these cowardly contenders all refuse to.

                      Why don't the big names in the Heavyweight division call out Deontay Wilder? Why? He wouldn't be fighting these cans if they did?

                      Can you give me an honest explanation why? After all, Tyson Fury did it. So why couldn't they all have done the same?

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