Comments Thread For: Hearn Reacts To Arum, Warren: Fury Can't Avoid Whyte Mandatory

[Ray*]

You're right. He won't.

He's being dictated to, by two scumbags; Arum and Warren.

It's not really up to anyone expect the WBC. The mandate is already there, and with the lawsuit up their backside, i doubt the WBC would let Team Fury walk around them again.

I think they learnt from the whole "Diamond belt" thing, when Fury told the WBC to put that belt on the line and that he would fight Whyte, and then went back on it when the WBC agreed and Whyte agreed to that.

[Blackstarr]

You don't believe that Deontay Wilder couldn't see through the bullshit that Matchroom was putting down? All Deontay ever wanted was AJ.

However, Eddie Hearn kept waving Whyte in his face as a pawn in order to save face and protect Anthony Joshua from being chinned by Deontay Wilder because he wasn't confident that Joshua would win. So be honest and tell the truth. You know I'm right.

The whole entire boxing establishment knew what was in play; Including Tyson Fury and Frank Warren. "The Bronze Bomber" isn't afraid of no fucking Dillian Whyte. The reason why he avoided him because he could and he didn't have any shit that he wanted.

He wanted Anthony Joshua because he held all the belts and the cards. Wilder easily knocks Whyte the fuck out because he is too fat and slow.

Then why didn’t Wilder easily knock him out then for what would have been a great pay day, great exposure to the biggest boxing market outside the US and an opportunity to back AJ and Hearn into a corner with nowhere to run, all while eliminating his #1 contender? I could perhaps excuse Wilder if he was fighting killers instead, but look at his record!

Also, I don’t recall Whyte being waved as an obstacle to that 3 fight DAZN deal including 2 fights with Joshua. If Wilder was so desperate to fight AJ, why didn’t his team come up with a counter offer to that if they didn’t like it?

Just go on YT and see how non-committal Wilder was about a fight with AJ in interviews, and compare that to the noises coming from Fury and Top Rank. You Wilder fans make no damn sense.

[Blackstarr]

The Whole Fury bandwagon is one big hypocritical joke.

Arum; 'Fury won't fight his mandatory'
Also Arum 'Joshua can't avoid his mandatory, Pulev'

Arum; 'Fury won't be fighting Whyte, he's not a big enough draw'
Also Arum; 'Sign here Otto'

Fury is Bob's little bitch

This 100 per cent! I was wholeheartedly rooting for Fury in his Wilder fights, but the hypocrisy of his team and delusion of his die-hard fans has begun to put me off massively.

My first thoughts were that Fury would wipe the floor with Whyte, but Fury’s attitude makes me feel there’s a lot more truth to Whyte’s sparring stories than I expected.

[Jkp]

Why should Joshua have to continually fight his madatories and Fury, who has won the heavyweight title twice, has never had to face a mandatory challenger. Fury needs to be tested more before fighting Joshua. Joshua vs Fury can wait until the end of 2021 once big crowds are back in and the madatories are done and dusted. Plus Dillian more than deserves his shot so should come before Joshua anyway.

No one cares about mandatorys.
We want the 2 top guys fighting each other.

[Jkp]

Then why didn’t Wilder easily knock him out then for what would have been a great pay day, great exposure to the biggest boxing market outside the US and an opportunity to back AJ and Hearn into a corner with nowhere to run, all while eliminating his #1 contender? I could perhaps excuse Wilder if he was fighting killers instead, but look at his record!

Also, I don’t recall Whyte being waved as an obstacle to that 3 fight DAZN deal including 2 fights with Joshua. If Wilder was so desperate to fight AJ, why didn’t his team come up with a counter offer to that if they didn’t like it?

Just go on YT and see how non-committal Wilder was about a fight with AJ in interviews, and compare that to the noises coming from Fury and Top Rank. You Wilder fans make no damn sense.

There was no guarantee of fighting AJ. AJ was busy losing his titles to the fattest champion ever. And then rematching an even fatter version of the Mexican blimp. When would these 2 Wilder fights have happened?

[Blackstarr]

There was no guarantee of fighting AJ. AJ was busy losing his titles to the fattest champion ever. And then rematching an even fatter version of the Mexican blimp. When would these 2 Wilder fights have happened?

Did Wilder’s fight with all the cans on his record bring him a guarantee of anything? Nothing in life is guaranteed - it shouldn’t have stopped Wilder from at least taking away Hearn’s excuses in what would have been a very beneficial fight from himself for the reasons I’ve already stated, regardless of a guaranteed fight with AJ or not.

The offer made to Wilder was before AJ lost to Ruiz, so what happened afterwards is totally irrelevant in determining whether Wilder truly wanted AJ or not.

[champion4ever]

Then why didn’t Wilder easily knock him out then for what would have been a great pay day, great exposure to the biggest boxing market outside the US and an opportunity to back AJ and Hearn into a corner with nowhere to run, all while eliminating his #1 contender? I could perhaps excuse Wilder if he was fighting killers instead, but look at his record!

Also, I don’t recall Whyte being waved as an obstacle to that 3 fight DAZN deal including 2 fights with Joshua. If Wilder was so desperate to fight AJ, why didn’t his team come up with a counter offer to that if they didn’t like it?

Just go on YT and see how non-committal Wilder was about a fight with AJ in interviews, and compare that to the noises coming from Fury and Top Rank. You Wilder fans make no damn sense.

The reason why he didn't fight Whyte was because he didn't have to. He had nothing to prove by fighting him. Deontay was the WBC Heavyweight champion at the time. He wanted one name one face and one undisputed champion with AJ.

Dude, must I remind you that it was Joshua who had ducked Wilder back in 2018 after him agreeing to all of his terms and conditions like: A $15 mil flat fee, no percentage and on foreign soil?

The truth is you know that Matchroom didn't want Anthony Joshua to fight Deontay Wilder back then because they feared he wasn't ready and would lose. Which was why Wilder was forced to fight Tyson Fury on the rebound in a fight which he didn't need or want.

Then when the negotiations between Wilder/Fury 2 were ongoing AJ all of sudden grew his balls back and wanted to challenge Deontay Wilder several months later on DAZN. However, subsequently Wilder told him to go to Hell after he initially rejected the discount price that was offered to him.

I don't blame him. I would have done the exact same thing. Either there was going to be a 50/50 purse split or there will be no fight at all after Joshua reneged on their original agreement.

All Team Wilder wanted to know what was Joshua's split of the purse would be and John Skipper refused to disclose that amount to them; Which is something he said he later regretted. He took full responsibility for the talks breaking down.

[Blackstarr]

The reason why he didn't fight Whyte was because he didn't have to. He had nothing to prove by fighting him. Deontay was the WBC Heavyweight champion at the time. He wanted one name one face and one undisputed champion with AJ.

Dude, must I remind you that it was Joshua who had ducked Wilder back in 2018 after him agreeing to all of his terms and conditions like: A $15 mil flat fee, no percentage and on foreign soil?

The truth is you know that Matchroom didn't want Anthony Joshua to fight Deontay Wilder back then because they feared he wasn't ready and would lose. Which was why Wilder was forced to fight Tyson Fury on the rebound in a fight which he didn't need or want.

Then when the negotiations between Wilder/Fury 2 were ongoing AJ all of sudden grew his balls back and wanted to challenge Deontay Wilder several months later on DAZN. However, subsequently Wilder told him to go to Hell after he initially rejected the discount price that was offered to him.

I don't blame him. I would have done the exact same thing. Either there was going to be a 50/50 purse split or there will be no fight at all after Joshua reneged on their original agreement.

All Team Wilder wanted to know what was Joshua's split of the purse would be and John Skipper refused to disclose that amount to them; Which is something he said he later regretted. He took full responsibility for the talks breaking down.

And Wilder didn’t have to fight all the cans on his record but he chose to, when instead he could have fought Whyte at some point for more money and exposure. Yes he didn’t have to, but as a business move it would have made perfect sense.

I don’t care for assigning blame with all those so-called flat fee negotiations and besides, how does someone go from apparently “accepting” a $15m flat-fee then demanding 50-50 within the space of a few months?

I also maintain that AJ’s purse was none of the Wilder team’s business - that fight was never a 50-50 back then or ever, and if Wilder was apparently willing to accept $15m less than a year beforehand, he damn well should have accepted the $100m there and then, especially when he hadn’t even sniffed $10m at that point.

I’m sorry but looking at his record, I really can’t give Wilder the benefit of the doubt in conversations neither of us were privy to. This man had kept the WBC belt hostage for 5 years, yet didn’t unify even once, he fought his first half-decent opponent in his 40th FIGHT, and had the worst resume of any long-standing champion in any division. Nothing there shows me any indication of a man who has truly chased greatness, and pales insignificantly to what AJ and Fury have achieved. Those are straight facts.

[solid_jab1987]

No one cares about mandatorys.
We want the 2 top guys fighting each other.

"You" may not. I want to see Fury fight someone decent before he gets to fight for three belts against someone who has consistently tested himself. Top 2 guys can fight when crowds are back.

[champion4ever]

And Wilder didn’t have to fight all the cans on his record but he chose to, when instead he could have fought Whyte at some point for more money and exposure. Yes he didn’t have to, but as a business move it would have made perfect sense.

I don’t care for assigning blame with all those so-called flat fee negotiations and besides, how does someone go from apparently “accepting” a $15m flat-fee then demanding 50-50 within the space of a few months?

I also maintain that AJ’s purse was none of the Wilder team’s business - that fight was never a 50-50 back then or ever, and if Wilder was apparently willing to accept $15m less than a year beforehand, he damn well should have accepted the $100m there and then, especially when he hadn’t even sniffed $10m at that point.

I’m sorry but looking at his record, I really can’t give Wilder the benefit of the doubt in conversations neither of us were privy to. This man had kept the WBC belt hostage for 5 years, yet didn’t unify even once, he fought his first half-decent opponent in his 40th FIGHT, and had the worst resume of any long-standing champion in any division. Nothing there shows me any indication of a man who has truly chased greatness, and pales insignificantly to what AJ and Fury have achieved. Those are straight facts.

Fighting those cans made him the WBC's heavyweight champion now didn't it? You keep talking about his resume but it takes two to fight. Maybe if you can get these fighters and contenders to grow a nut sack and fight Wilder then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

The truth is opponents are too afraid of fighting the "Bronze Bomber" Deontay Wilder. Like AJ they all fear being chinned by him. Therefore, they all price themselves out in order to avoid him. So you can't blame Wilder if nobody wants to fight him.

Also, your word is your bond. By Eddie Hearn, Anthony Joshua and Matchroom Sport stringing Wilder along but the entire boxing world as a whole along as well by feigning a fight with Deontay Wilder; It has hurt not only their credibility but their reputation as well.

You see how they are having trouble signing American fighters. By doing so it has cost them leverage at the bargaining table too.

If Wilder ever regains his WBC title belt back a potential fight between himself and Joshua would be on his terms and not the other way around.