DAZN being cheap, don't want to pay Canelo full price for next fight

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  • MDPopescu
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    #51
    Originally posted by OnePunch
    DAZN only owns Canelos broadcast rights. Why would they give a ***** about the live gate? Thats Golden Boys problem, not theirs.......
    ... yes, right... but GBP has to pay the opponent's purse (which actually results from the live gate revenue, I guess)...

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    • Tomjas
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      #52
      Canelo is a boring fighter and personality

      Best thing that he’s got going for him is his nationality

      He would have many losses on his record if he was a kid from Philly

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      • El_Mero
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        #53
        No fans means no live gate. Throw in the fact that his last 3 opponents werent exactly names or killers and you should understand why dazn doest want to pay him that much. His next opponent isnt a household name or ko artist either

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        • Verus
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          #54
          Originally posted by champion4ever
          Either Canelo take this fight on shorts or risk DAZN going completely and permanently out of business. It's his choice. They are in near financial ruin and could use a loan to seriously pay off their debts.

          Canelo understands the current climate we are living in. Without a live gate DAZN doesn't stand a chance of matching his guarantee.

          The upside of this is it's only temporary and he is still working and has a job. That's more than what 40 million Americans can say.
          If DAZN goes out of business, that would make Canelo a free agent. That is probably a good thing for Canelo. The sooner he gets free from DAZN and Golden Boy the better. He can either promote his own fights, perhaps in partnership with another promoter, or sign outright with one of the major promotion companies. There are plenty of others who would pay big bucks to secure Canelo's services and his brand. I must say that I had high hopes for DAZN, but they seem to run by dolts.

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          • OnePunch
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            #55
            Originally posted by champion4ever
            You're right. However, I just wonder how many subscribers do DAZN have remaining to help pay Canelo's guarantee with so many boxing fans worldwide being either unemployed or furloughed? I know I allowed mine to expire back in April without renewing it. $100 is lot to ask of boxing fans during this pandemic.
            you would have to think that DAZN knew the deal was a loser overall, basically a loss-leader to expose the US audience to their product. I suppose they could be dumb enough to think they would turn a profit on Canelos deal, but if they actually thought that, then maybe they need new leadership.......


            Edit: On 2nd thought, perhaps it wasnt so far fetched an idea. Assume Canelo fights 2x a year, thats a $70 million outlay for DAZN. If Canelo drives a million subs a year (not an unreasonable goal), thats $100 million annually in revenue, less the production expenses. They key is that those have to be annual subs though, and not just monthly buys in the 2 months that he fights.....
            Last edited by OnePunch; 07-25-2020, 09:00 AM.

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #56
              Originally posted by OnePunch
              you would have to think that DAZN knew the deal was a loser overall, basically a loss-leader to expose the US audience to their product. I suppose they could be dumb enough to think they would turn a profit on Canelos deal, but if they actually thought that, then maybe they need new leadership.......


              Edit: On 2nd thought, perhaps it wasnt so far fetched an idea. Assume Canelo fights 2x a year, thats a $70 million outlay for DAZN. If Canelo drives a million subs a year (not an unreasonable goal), thats $100 million annually in revenue, less the production expenses. They key is that those have to be annual subs though, and not just monthly buys in the 2 months that he fights.....
              Canelo is just the special menu for purchasing. Your target example makes sense, but keep in mind that there are purchases each day for DAZN that have nothing to do with boxing retention. They cater to other sports. So imagine all the other fight dates from GBP and Matchroom. The daily purchasing of subs for all its sports is what makes revenue justifiable in paying Canelo. He is one of their main ambassadors/investments. But let’s be realistic, DAZN secures rights for the biggest sport in the world, football. That a completely different audience and metric. DAZN Global is the revenue, not just the DAZN USA market.

              DAZN Global (originally 7+ markets) are about to go big time with 200+. Boxing is just a special niche menu, but realistically new gen fans whom
              Have mobile want football. I’ve seen people for the last 9 years stream matches from mobile phones.

              Canelo shouldn’t be at fault because of the pandemic. The politics at play and influence in those board meetings has me to believe that an influencer is saying that Canelo’s opponents are “bad.” I take that’s Eddie Hearn. Eddie Hearn has also been saying Canelo should consider a PPV option for Sept. why the hell would he say that?! Lol. Eddie Hearn is trying to mess with the GBP portfolio and sneak in Matchroom exclusively. He even made headlines recently he wants to run boxing like the UFC. If he truly means that he’s doing dirty deeds to mess with Canelo business since we know Oscar and Eddie have had tabs each other the last 2 years within DAZN.

              It’s not a coincidence.

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              • ShoulderRoll
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                #57
                Originally posted by Mister Wolf
                I thought he was taking a paycut?
                He is.

                But none of his more attractive opponents seem to want to take a paycut.

                Instead they want career high paydays.

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                • ironmike2012
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by champion4ever
                  Either Canelo take this fight on shorts or risk DAZN going completely and permanently out of business. It's his choice. They are in near financial ruin and could use a loan to seriously pay off their debts.


                  Canelo understands the current climate we are living in. Without a live gate DAZN doesn't stand a chance of matching his guarantee.

                  The upside of this is it's only temporary and he is still working and has a job. That's more than what 40 million Americans can say.
                  Well said, i agree

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by champion4ever
                    Either Canelo take this fight on shorts or risk DAZN going completely and permanently out of business. It's his choice. They are in near financial ruin and could use a loan to seriously pay off their debts.

                    Canelo understands the current climate we are living in. Without a live gate DAZN doesn't stand a chance of matching his guarantee.

                    The upside of this is it's only temporary and he is still working and has a job. That's more than what 40 million Americans can say.
                    DAZN gets a cut of Canelo's gate?

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                    • Motorcity Cobra
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Larry_Rushmore
                      The loss of a live gate damn near cripples boxing
                      Originally posted by Mammoth
                      Yep. But DAZN entered into an agreement with Canelo.
                      Golden Boy, the promoter, gets a cut of the gate, not DAZN. They're the network

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