MMA looks so sloppy compared to Boxing

[TMLT87]

All the street fights I saw mma fighters involved in were them throwing punches. I never saw them take a guy down. Wonder why

Uhhh...because the dudes they're fighting arent professional boxers?

Why expend energy taking someone down if you can punch them out in 5 seconds?

[Lomadeaux]

Boxers are specialists.

MMA fighters generally train in, at minimum:
boxing
at least one flavor of kickboxing (Muay Thai, Dutch style, K1 style, American style, Sanda, etc)
at least one flavor of submission grappling (BJJ, Judo, catch wrestling, Sambo, etc)
at least one flavor of wrestling (freestyle, collegiate/American folk, Greco-Roman, etc)

And many mix in other styles like Karate, Taekwondo, Capoeira, traditional Chinese styles, etc. Plus sparring under actual MMA rules.

And then they have to mix all of it together under pressure in a cage fight. Your boxing form isn't going to be perfect when you also have to know how to check a leg kick and defend a takedown. Your Judo isn't going to look perfect when you have to worry about getting punched in the face.

MMA has old roots but as a mainstream sport it really only goes back about three decades. Boxing has a big head start and the advantage of extreme specialization, so of course high level boxing is going to look a lot smoother and more technical than high level MMA (or kickboxing, for that matter).

Right.. this is pretty much why you can get a guy who just started to train in MMA, put him in there with a seasoned veteran, and they can win.

[Eg714]

If you never been leg kicked then don’t talk **** about it not being effective. Only takes one or 2 good leg kicks to completely take away your punching power. Trained both mma and boxing.

I used to be one of those people believing that boxing was ill I needed in a fight but that’s far from the truth.

[TMLT87]

If you never been leg kicked then don’t talk **** about it not being effective. Only takes one or 2 good leg kicks to completely take away your punching power. Trained both mma and boxing.

Exactly. Its always funny when you see people having delusions about being able to deal with kicks, grappling etc while having no previous experience with them. A low kick feels like someone swinging a baseball at your thigh for ****s sake. Its obviously coming from outside of punching range and the only really reliable way of consistently defending against it is by checking, which takes practice.

Right.. this is pretty much why you can get a guy who just started to train in MMA, put him in there with a seasoned veteran, and they can win.

Who?

[Lomadeaux]

Exactly. Its always funny when you see people having delusions about being able to deal with kicks, grappling etc while having no previous experience with them. A low kick feels like someone swinging a baseball at your thigh for ****s sake. Its obviously coming from outside of punching range and the only really reliable way of consistently defending against it is by checking, which takes practice.




Who?

What? It happens all the time.

[TMLT87]

What? It happens all the time.

Can you name names then? because i'm an MMA fan and cant think of any.

[SplitSecond]

Can you name names then? because i'm an MMA fan and cant think of any.

Kimbo Slice, Ray Mercer, What’s that wrestler?

Twas Brock Lesnar. Lesnar btw has no clue how to fight. I remember laughing my ass off at his reactions to punches being thrown at him.

It’s like this. The human body likes to specialize, you can’t morph it to opposing directions. Example, grappling builds different type of muscle than what’s best for a great punch for instance, they go against each other. In that way an MMA fighter will find it very hard to ever be as good as the boxer’s with their hands, or the muay thai guy with his kicks. MMA are master’s of nothing, although they do often have specialists, like Mcgregor for example, it requires taking away from the rest of the game and like we’ve seen will still find it difficult to compete with the hands of an elite boxers.

The nerds on here don’t seem to realize that the majority of boxer’s were big time street fighters, Pacquiao was fighting in the streets every day, Duran boasts how he’s got about 60 street fights and never lost one, Roy Jones used to seek out bullies to fight, Golovkin tough looking citizens. Trust me when I tell you, 9 times out of ten the boxer will beat the sht out of the MMA guy in the streets where neither knows the other’s distinctive qualities. Very few guy’s start a fight with a takedown, especially when there are a lot of potential opponents to jump in.

[Eg714]

Kimbo Slice, Ray Mercer, What’s that wrestler?

Twas Brock Lesnar. Lesnar btw has no clue how to fight. I remember laughing my ass off at his reactions to punches being thrown at him.

It’s like this. The human body likes to specialize, you can’t morph it to opposing directions. Example, grappling builds different type of muscle than what’s best for a great punch for instance, they go against each other. In that way an MMA fighter will find it very hard to ever be as good as the boxer’s with their hands, or the muay thai guy with his kicks. MMA are master’s of nothing, although they do often have specialists, like Mcgregor for example, it requires taking away from the rest of the game and like we’ve seen will still find it difficult to compete with the hands of an elite boxers.

The nerds on here don’t seem to realize that the majority of boxer’s were big time street fighters, Pacquiao was fighting in the streets every day, Duran boasts how he’s got about 60 street fights and never lost one, Roy Jones used to seek out bullies to fight, Golovkin tough looking citizens. Trust me when I tell you, 9 times out of ten the boxer will beat the sht out of the MMA guy in the streets where neither knows the other’s distinctive qualities. Very few guy’s start a fight with a takedown, especially when there are a lot of potential opponents to jump in.

Not true at all my guy. 9 out of 10 street fights end on the ground. Even Standing up the mma guy would just leg kick the **** out of the boxer If he was getting the better of him on the feet. MMA wasn’t really a thing when Duran was street fighting so of course he ran thru everyone.

[darius45]

Not true at all my guy. 9 out of 10 street fights end on the ground. Even Standing up the mma guy would just leg kick the **** out of the boxer If he was getting the better of him on the feet. MMA wasn’t really a thing when Duran was street fighting so of course he ran thru everyone.

Lol @ the mma fighter HAVING to leg kick because it's his only recourse because he's terrified of closing the distance on a boxer... It's an admission to how awful his striking is... But your logic doesn't even hold true... Guys in MMA fights routinely get close and just box...

Elite boxers are just SOOOO much faster than MMA fighters with their hands... Most streets fights end immediately after one guy gets tagged by a few good punches... It's also a lot easier physically and faster to get off a couple of punches than to attempt some big kick... ALSO... I don't see most of these MMA guys kicking with the speed of Bruce Lee...

There's no Roy Jones Jr of Kicks in the MMA lol

Boxing simply attracts much more special athletes for whatever reason

[darius45]

It’s like this. The human body likes to specialize, you can’t morph it to opposing directions. Example, grappling builds different type of muscle than what’s best for a great punch for instance, they go against each other. In that way an MMA fighter will find it very hard to ever be as good as the boxer’s with their hands, or the muay thai guy with his kicks. MMA are master’s of nothing, although they do often have specialists, like Mcgregor for example, it requires taking away from the rest of the game and like we’ve seen will still find it difficult to compete with the hands of an elite boxers.

I would say they're masters of BJJ... I dunno how many Olympic gold wrestlers have ever had successful MMA careers though... To your point though... I believe i asked this question on here before and the answer was no... But there has never been person to win Olympic gold in wrestling AND boxing... It would take an extraordinary athlete to achieve that (like more extraordinary than an athlete like Roy Jones jr or Floyd)... to the point where it seems completely impossible...

For MMA to look as smooth as boxing, you have to have the most incredible athletes... Whereas in boxing even B level boxers can look good... But in MMA it starts to look REALLY bad at the lower end of the talent spectrum...MMA then, by it's very design, will NEVER look as good as boxing