MMA looks so sloppy compared to Boxing

[ELPacman]

UFC is just different. As much as I pretend I can't stand it, they're times I accidently stumble upon it and find myself entertained.

The difference though I feel is like, boxing is a direct sport where you master 1 form of style. Because you are mastering 1 form, there will be levels to it and the elite are separate from the non-elite almost immediately.

In boxing, you can have your 1 punch shock KO loss, but I feel it's less frequent than in MMA where they're so many more chances to do something wild or unexpected to win. Some people like that more because it's the unexpected, but I like to know when you mastered something, you separate yourself from the rest. It creates those levels and tiers of experience and you can appreciate one working at the highest levels.

That said, people say, oh, MMA will be better for you in real life fighting. Honestly, I don't think it's much different than boxing in real life fighting, in that neither is going to matter, lol. When your in a real life fight where there are ZERO rules, anything goes, your wild swinging is about as effective as the other guys. Sure, some will have that natural knowing way of throwing a punch out of instinct while others are haymaker swinging and wild, but they may just abandon that and grab a chair. You never know when it comes down to street fighting, lol.

[Bunkerboy]

[Dean_Razorback]

why didn't aldo kick mcgregor's legs off? the good ol' 1-2 would be enough to stop any of those guys

[Mushroom]

why didn't aldo kick mcgregor's legs off? the good ol' 1-2 would be enough to stop any of those guys

I heard Chael Sonnen say that kickboxing has a 3 kick per round minimum because fighters realised that kicks aren’t that effective.

Thought that was interesting

[Squ□redCircle34]

Funny how on MMA websites they said the card was boring but the best fights were someone getting “punched on”, that tells you all you need to know!

Usman-Masvidal or a Clay Collard fight, yeah I know who I’m watching with a drink in hand!

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Some are sloppy yes, but you have to adjust your stance to account for leg kicks, takedowns etc. Plus, if you've ever wrestled/grappled with someone the same size as you that destroys your cardio. Almost like sprinting, it just swallows up all the oxygen in your body. Fighting tired makes them look much sloppier, but some guys are super talented. Wonderboy at 170 has insane striking, lots of guys come from kickboxing like Israel Adesanya

[TMLT87]

why didn't aldo kick mcgregor's legs off? the good ol' 1-2 would be enough to stop any of those guys

Because he caught him with the first punch thrown, in one of the fastest KOs and most shocking finishes in the sports history.

I know, I know, boxers are so superhuman with their hands that the same thing would happen every single time they stood with an MMA fighter.....

I heard Chael Sonnen say that kickboxing has a 3 kick per round minimum because fighters realised that kicks aren’t that effective.

Thought that was interesting

Chael is one of the biggest bull****ters on the planet. I dont think that rule is even a thing in any major kickboxing orgs. Regardless they throw far more than 3 kicks per round anyway, and they sure as hell would if they were facing someone that literally didnt know how to defend them.

Usman-Masvidal or a Clay Collard fight, yeah I know who I’m watching with a drink in hand!

So of all the names on the boxing side you could bring up to defend its entertainment value, you mention.....Clay Collard, a sloppy as **** ex-MMA fighter who flopped in the UFC, lol.

[BOJACK]

It's cus it's still in its infancy. Wait till these guys become more skilled a few decades down the line.

[TMLT87]

lots of guys come from kickboxing like Israel Adesanya

Yep. People do the whole "jack of all trades" thing about MMA fighters but then you have a dude like Israel Adesanya who was 75-5 in kickboxing. And whats interesting/telling is although hes a great striker in MMA too, its not like he just walks through everyone in the striking department based on his kickboxing pedigree. Gastelum, who is basically a short BJJ black belt with heavy hands, had a 5 round stand up war with him where both guys got hurt plenty. The Izzy/Yoel fight was two guys staring each other down for 5 rounds because both were scared to engage, bearing in mind that again, one is a 75-5 kickboxer and one is an olympic medallist wrestler.

Point being, people massively underestimate the quality of MMA striking, anyone can get slept under MMA rules, no matter what they might have done in another striking art before.

[TMLT87]

It's cus it's still in its infancy. Wait till these guys become more skilled a few decades down the line.

I think its hit its ceiling already tbh. The skills evolved massively in the 90s but by the mid 00s you were already getting fighters that were coming close to perfecting things. Since then the depth in most divisions has improved but the cream of the crop guys in the sport today arent any more evolved than guys like GSP, Anderson, Fedor, Jones, Aldo etc were a decade or more ago.