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  • #11
    Originally posted by Boxingking1511 View Post
    In my opinion he is clearly one of the 21st century greatest boxers. What do you guys think of Miguel Cottos legacy? Is he Hall Of Fame level? Is he ATG? 4 division champ. 6 time world champion.
    I think he is overrated by many. He will go to the hall of fame on the 1st ballot. He has done enough good fighting to go to the hall of fame on the earliest vote. All time great? Maybe to some but not to me. At what weight was he great? 140, 147, 154 or 160? To me he was not great at any weight especially not middleweight. He fought all his middleweight fights at a catchweight below the actual middleweight limit.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by lopetego View Post
      Yeah, because they tend to focus on fame more than greatness

      fame in the US particularly, fighters that are popular there and bring views and put butts in seats

      that's why many genuinely great fighters from Asia never get in

      while someone like Gatti is in
      Or Carlos Palomino...

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      • #13
        Nobody went to war like Miguel, he lost a close but coulda went any direction fight vs canelo, a fight that I would hope to see 20 round s instead. So either a 15 rounder or a rematch, these guys were TOUGH, too much warrior in them.

        Against Floyd he held his own, VERY close fight.

        Miguel beat margarito. He avenged that loss in definite fashion. The only person who dismantled him was Manny Pacquiao the greatest at the time.

        Who cares about the sadam Ali match? Stuff happens.

        So I have to ask my self this: the two front-runner s from the 21st century which I'm basing this assessment on, there was a fighter that lost to pac and money may. His name was Ricky hatton. Now the question I bring up was: does that make you pound for pound #3 for Miguel or Richard hatton. Who wins between these 2 3rd place coveters?

        Hatton ONLY lost to the 2 very best: pac and money. Miguel ALSO lost to pac and money. So who mythologically goes down as pound for pound #3? Hatton- cotto, 2 atg's and legends and hofers, same era, weight class etc, one of the greatest fight that never happened.

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        • #14
          Cotto's probably a bit overated but he was a fan friendly fighter with lots of heart. The problem with Miguel was as he moved up in weight he became less effective until finally, through some clever matchmaking, Miguel became, arguably, the weakest MW champ in modern history.
          That said Miguel is a legitimate Hall of Famer but not an ATG.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post
            Or Carlos Palomino...
            True, anybody with half a brain realizes the Boxing Hall Of Fame is a joke.

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            • #16
              He is not underrated , actually might be slightly overrated.Things could have been different but I think that 1st Margarito took a lot out of him and he was never the same.He had some solid wins , but lost his biggest fights Margarito (he cheated) still an L though, lost to Pac, lost to Floyd, lost to Canelo .

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Boxingking1511 View Post
                In my opinion he is clearly one of the 21st century greatest boxers. What do you guys think of Miguel Cottos legacy? Is he Hall Of Fame level? Is he ATG? 4 division champ. 6 time world champion.
                I think Cottos overall boxing IQ is widely overlooked. Cotto is a greatbboxer to study technique from. His athleticism + his mastery of the basics makes him a great model for young boxers.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Fat_asian View Post
                  Nobody went to war like Miguel, he lost a close but coulda went any direction fight vs canelo, a fight that I would hope to see 20 round s instead. So either a 15 rounder or a rematch, these guys were TOUGH, too much warrior in them.

                  Against Floyd he held his own, VERY close fight.

                  Miguel beat margarito. He avenged that loss in definite fashion. The only person who dismantled him was Manny Pacquiao the greatest at the time.

                  Who cares about the sadam Ali match? Stuff happens.

                  So I have to ask my self this: the two front-runner s from the 21st century which I'm basing this assessment on, there was a fighter that lost to pac and money may. His name was Ricky hatton. Now the question I bring up was: does that make you pound for pound #3 for Miguel or Richard hatton. Who wins between these 2 3rd place coveters?

                  Hatton ONLY lost to the 2 very best: pac and money. Miguel ALSO lost to pac and money. So who mythologically goes down as pound for pound #3? Hatton- cotto, 2 atg's and legends and hofers, same era, weight class etc, one of the greatest fight that never happened.

                  Marquez ranks higher than both

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                    yep, he is a HOF'er... Cotto had a excellent career

                    his two biggest losses were almost certainly against cheats

                    #overachiever
                    Margarito and Floyd.
                    U called it.

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                    • #20
                      A very very good fighter

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