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  • daggum
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    #41
    Originally posted by kushking
    Now you're back to the hypocritical apologist method of talking outta both sides of your mouth again. How can Ward have somehow ducked Bute but yet your absurdly arguing ggg didn't duck Ward(although duck is the wrong word for describing ggg being so petrified of Ward(or any non 180th ranked bums at smw)that he turned down any possibility of a fight in a few minutes flat). Ggg fought Rolls at a smw cw but you STILL choose to believe he would ever have the balls to fight a non bum at smw let alone Ward,let alone before his father Canelo made jumping multiple divisions look easy.
    ward turned down bute and tried to fight sartison. ggg turned down a multi fight ward contact that would have made him postpone the canleo fight preemptively. i dont consider those things the same at all. thats a false equivalency. ward simply never made a legit offer to ggg. ward himself said he thought ggg was available to fight in 2015 yet he didnt wnat to fight till 2016. absurd. you cant just say people ducked and try to fit al the evidence into your conlcusion. it doesnt hold up.

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    • Curt Henning
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      #42
      "bute was a top fighter for many years"

      by beating 50 year old glen johnson? and jesse brinkley? and librido andrade? lol....yeah ok...."hey man go fight the guy i easily outclassed and you can get it".....-gets spanked by froch-....

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        #43
        Originally posted by Curt Henning
        floyd made 25 for the oscar fight....floyd was asking for 20 mil because he and his people knew how big it would be and how much their slice should be worth....because floyds people were actually smarter than arum.....you dumb ****

        thats why they left arum...they knew they could bring floyd to the masses....and they did...they delivered big time

        bob arum lost out on hundred of millions over a paltry 6 million

        and you are a certified dumb **** who cant stand that your hero has come up short and is no ATG like you and the merry band of idiots swore he was

        lmao his guarantee was only 10 when he actually fought hoya so what you are saying doenst make a lick of sense. if he knew how big it would be why didnt he ask for that same guarantee!

        im not a fanboy. you know you are losing the argument so you are acting like a petulant child.

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          #44
          Originally posted by daggum
          lmao his guarantee was only 10 when he actually fought hoya so what you are saying doenst make a lick of sense. if he knew how big it would be why didnt he ask for that same guarantee!
          of course it doesnt make a lick of sense...because you are dumb as ****....

          i said floyds people knew what his slice of the oscar fight would be if they got the fight....which is why he asked for a 20 mil guarantee.....that would have been floyds guaranteed purse if arum made the fight...instead they took a guarantee plus a percentage cut....because they knew what the fight would do and how much it would sell

          if he took 20 mil from arum he wasnt getting a percentage cut...he was getting the guarantee

          im not losing anything...you are just so thick in the head its ridiculous

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            #45
            Originally posted by Curt Henning
            "bute was a top fighter for many years"

            by beating 50 year old glen johnson? and jesse brinkley? and librido andrade? lol....yeah ok...."hey man go fight the guy i easily outclassed and you can get it".....-gets spanked by froch-....
            im just going by the rankings. you can debate those all you want which is fair, for example haney is classified as a top fighter right now and he literally has fought no one. bute had a couple top 10 wins over his run. nothing great but perception was that he was a top fighter. are you denying that? just trying to revise history to explain away wards duck? wouldnt it just be easier to say yeah ward really should have fought him instead of twistin yourself into a human pretzel

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            • kushking
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              #46
              Originally posted by daggum
              ward turned down bute and tried to fight sartison. ggg turned down a multi fight ward contact that would have made him postpone the canleo fight preemptively. i dont consider those things the same at all. thats a false equivalency. ward simply never made a legit offer to ggg. ward himself said he thought ggg was available to fight in 2015 yet he didnt wnat to fight till 2016. absurd. you cant just say people ducked and try to fit al the evidence into your conlcusion. it doesnt hold up.
              You are a liar,show a shred of proof of your bs claims about"a multi fight deal that would've delayed Canelo fight",Ward considered ggg a TUNE UP!! Ggg has spent his entire life making excuses for ducking anyone bigger than him & let alone better(like Ward who wouldve destroyed ggg(are you blind enough to dispute this?),ggg is STILL making excuses for ducking which is why it instantly discredits your argument defending him that attempts to paint it as the same excuse you decry Wilder for using with AJ/Dazn deal(that actually was offered unlike the 1 fight tune up deal ggg was offered)

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              • daggum
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                #47
                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                of course it doesnt make a lick of sense...because you are dumb as ****....

                i said floyds people knew what his slice of the oscar fight would be if they got the fight....which is why he asked for a 20 mil guarantee.....that would have been floyds guaranteed purse if arum made the fight...instead they took a guarantee plus a percentage cut....because they knew what the fight would do and how much it would sell

                if he took 20 mil from arum he wasnt getting a percentage cut...he was getting the guarantee

                im not losing anything...you are just so thick in the head its ridiculous
                you just made that up. floyd always got back end points.

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                • Curt Henning
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                  #48
                  let me explain to you one more time...so maybe you can understand

                  "bob get me 20 to fight oscar it will be big"...floyd was asking for 20 flat...no percentages....nothing else

                  instead floyd got a 25 mil total when he did fight...he was happy with taking a 10 mil guarantee plus a percentage cut because him and his people knew that another 10 mil was in the bag with the percentage cut......

                  does that make sense to you yet fkn imbecile?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    im not disagreeing that bute was more hype than elite fighter. bute was a top fighter for many years so i dont consider that a flash in the pan. overrated due to circumstances sure but if he ****** then why didnt ward just fight him and make a boatload of csah? what does fighting sartison do?
                    Your pathetic.

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                    • Curt Henning
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      you just made that up. floyd always got back end points.
                      floyd did get back end points...after the oscar fight once he became a star...he wasnt getting back end points before that...until the oscar fight....and if he had made the fight with arum and arum had gotten it sooner he would have taken 20 mil flat guaranteed.....

                      this stuff is far beyond your scope...you arent built for this

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