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  • daggum
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    #31
    Originally posted by Shadoww702
    Why did ggg your GOD duck Ward.

    Man your a fkn idiot if you think either one beat Ward.

    I bet $$$$$ unlike you. My mistakes hurt. Unlike your sloppy ***** lips
    ggg didnt duck ward though. once again you need to study things and do some research. wards offer wasnt legit and would have made ggg postpone the canelo fight for a year. lets be rational he wasnt doing that. ward knew he wasnt doing that. fake offer. no one fight deal to fight when ggg was avaialble. how do you get taken in so easily?

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      #32
      Originally posted by daggum
      i see people twisting that article all the time. i wlll break it down for you...again. make sure to copy paste this into your brain so you can fully understand just now badly floyd ducked margarito

      number 1. floyd was offered the fight before this and he chose to fight unranked sharmba instead.

      "Arum and Diaz say that the 'Pretty Boy' was offered in the neighborhood of $7 million to face Margarito. In what could best be described as a 'business move', the same guy who brazenly challenged the bigger Winky Wright decided to bypass Margarito, to collect nearly $4 million to spar with Sharmba Mitchell.

      "Flat turned him down like you can not believe," Arum said of Mayweather when he was offered a chance at the WBO title. "Any time we raised his name, Mayweather went crazy."

      2. floyd priced himself out.

      "he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

      Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there."

      fast forward to when he fought hoya...De La Hoya got a guaranteed $23.3 million for the fight, and Mayweather was paid a minimum $10 million

      arum was right it wasnt there.

      NOW comes the hard part(for you). putting all that information into your brain and analyzing it. floyd asked for 10 million to fight cotto...the same amount that he got for hoya. was cotto on hoyas level? no. thats a price out. he also asked for a 20 million guarantee to fight hoya which was so absurd and we know its absurd because he only got a 10 million guarantee when he fought hoya. thats a price out
      lol...youre pathetic guy

      arum lost floyd over 6 million dollars....7 for cotto and 7 for hatton ...14 mil...when floyd wanted 20 total....6 million bucks

      now think about that paltry 6 million compared to what floyd made over the rest of his career! hahahaha...man you are a sad, dumb, POS

      yeah man i guess ole bob was right! floyd priced himself out! floyd made no money and generated no money ever again after this! LOLOLOLOLOL


      Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

      Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

      "That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

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        #33
        Originally posted by el***
        Bute was overrated as hell. Canadians love their fighters if they someone half way decent there then they stand behind them and that really leads them to getting overhyped.

        IDK it would depend what time frame this was, because Ward took off 4 ***ing years ***ing around barely fighting and fighting uber drivers when he did bother to fight. 4 years after super six before dawson.
        he didnt take that time off. he tried to fight a bunch of bums like sartison and hbo didnt let him. they even went to court and ward lost which led to his dismissal from the network. people know this and they still pretend like he wasnt ducking guys

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          #34
          Bute was a hypejob

          I always said, because it was clearly obvious... the winner of the Super-6 would be the best SMW on the planet

          Ward told Bute to get one good win under his belt, just one... but Froch smacked him around like a schoolboy the very first time that Bute stepped up

          Bute needed to be more than just a flash in the pan to be considered as a genuine miss for Ward, most people seem to realize that...

          but it is still hilarious to hear Bumkin fans criticize Wards resume

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            #35
            Originally posted by kushking
            Yes that sums up what I wrote,Ward didn't duck Bute but there wasn't enough reward for him at the time so he went another direction to those who were worth fighting. Theres no denying that had Ward faced Bute he would've been a wonderful scalp to have on his mantle,but as been stated Ward faced all the best around his weight so can't be blamed for the 1 guy he didn't fight.
            it was reportedly a career high payday. why is that not enough reward? another direction? he literally signed to fight dmitri sartison next. how was he worth fighting?

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              #36
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime
              Bute was a hypejob

              I always said, because it was clearly obvious... the winner of the Super-6 would be the best SMW on the planet

              Ward told Bute to get one good win under his belt, just one... but Froch smacked him around like a schoolboy the very first time that Bute stepped up

              Bute needed to be more than just a flash in the pan to be considered as a genuine miss for Ward, most people seem to realize that...

              but it is still hilarious to hear Bumkin fans criticize Wards resume
              if it werent so goddamned sad...it would be hilarious watching these guys desperately deflect the shortcomings of their idol by trying to drag down someone who is better than their hero....its too bad these guys were sold a bill of goods on golovkin and he never delivered......

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                #37
                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                lol...youre pathetic guy

                arum lost floyd over 6 million dollars....7 for cotto and 7 for hatton ...14 mil...when floyd wanted 20 total....6 million bucks

                now think about that paltry 6 million compared to what floyd made over the rest of his career! hahahaha...man you are a sad, dumb, POS

                yeah man i guess ole bob was right! floyd priced himself out! floyd made no money and generated no money ever again after this! LOLOLOLOLOL


                Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

                Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

                "That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."
                i notice you didnt address any of my points. you keep talking about how arum lost money instead of why floyd chose to fight sharmba for less and why floyd asked for guarantees he knew no one would ever give him. so you can cut the "he would have fought margarito" crap becaues its basically like saying he would have fought him if pigs could fly. 10 million guarantee for cotto at that point? absurd. 20 mill for hoya? absurd.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  ggg didnt duck ward though. once again you need to study things and do some research. wards offer wasnt legit and would have made ggg postpone the canelo fight for a year. lets be rational he wasnt doing that. ward knew he wasnt doing that. fake offer. no one fight deal to fight when ggg was avaialble. how do you get taken in so easily?
                  Now you're back to the hypocritical apologist method of talking outta both sides of your mouth again. How can Ward have somehow ducked Bute but yet your absurdly arguing ggg didn't duck Ward(although duck is the wrong word for describing ggg being so petrified of Ward(or any non 180th ranked bums at smw)that he turned down any possibility of a fight in a few minutes flat). Ggg fought Rolls at a smw cw but you STILL choose to believe he would ever have the balls to fight a non bum at smw let alone Ward,let alone before his father Canelo made jumping multiple divisions look easy.

                  But anyone from 154-168 doe.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    Bute was a hypejob

                    I always said, because it was clearly obvious... the winner of the Super-6 would be the best SMW on the planet

                    Ward told Bute to get one good win under his belt, just one... but Froch smacked him around like a schoolboy the very first time that Bute stepped up

                    Bute needed to be more than just a flash in the pan to be considered as a genuine miss for Ward, most people seem to realize that...

                    but it is still hilarious to hear Bumkin fans criticize Wards resume
                    im not disagreeing that bute was more hype than elite fighter. bute was a top fighter for many years so i dont consider that a flash in the pan. overrated due to circumstances sure but if he ****** then why didnt ward just fight him and make a boatload of csah? what does fighting sartison do?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      i notice you didnt address any of my points. you keep talking about how arum lost money instead of why floyd chose to fight sharmba for less and why floyd asked for guarantees he knew no one would ever give him. so you can cut the "he would have fought margarito" crap becaues its basically like saying he would have fought him if pigs could fly. 10 million guarantee for cotto at that point? absurd. 20 mill for hoya? absurd.
                      floyd made 25 for the oscar fight....floyd was asking for 20 mil because he and his people knew how big it would be and how much their slice should be worth....because floyds people were actually smarter than arum.....you dumb ****

                      thats why they left arum...they knew they could bring floyd to the masses....and they did...they delivered big time

                      bob arum lost out on hundred of millions over a paltry 6 million

                      and you are a certified dumb **** who cant stand that your hero has come up short and is no ATG like you and the merry band of idiots swore he was

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