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  • daggum
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    #51
    Originally posted by kushking
    You are a liar,show a shred of proof of your bs claims about"a multi fight deal that would've delayed Canelo fight",Ward considered ggg a TUNE UP!! Ggg has spent his entire life making excuses for ducking anyone bigger than him & let alone better(like Ward who wouldn't destroyed ggg(are you blind enough to dispute this?),ggg is STILL making excuses for ducking which is why it instantly discredits your argument defending him that attempts to paint it as the same excuse you decry Wilder for using with AJ/Dazn deal(that actually was offered unlike the 1 fight tune up deal ggg was offered)
    im not lying. there is literally an entire thread on it already man...it was a multi fight deal. not a one fight deal. you got tricked by ward. check the dates.

    the wbc said even before ward made the offer...

    May 15, 2015
    Sulaiman: Cotto-Canelo Winner Must Face Golovkin


    June 2015
    Michael Yormak of Roc Nation, representing Ward, the proposal stipulated that both fighters would have one interim bout before meeting in 2016

    that doesnt sound like ward thought it was a tune up at all. ward himself needed more tune ups to fight ggg! ward wanted ggg to fight him instead of the canelo cotto winner! absurd. this is what i mean when people just dont do research

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    • Curt Henning
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      #52
      ward did propose each guy take one tune up....that was always known....he was afforded golovkin the luxury of testing 168 first against a 168 lb fighter

      golovkin fans have argued "you expect golovkin to move up and face the top 168 guy the first time out? thats not really fair is it"? and i agree....which is why ward proposed golovkin get a chance to get his feet wet at 168 first....and ward had been out of the ring for awhile and hadnt faced any real good comp in awhile so he too likely wanted another fight

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        #53
        Originally posted by Curt Henning
        ward did propose each guy take one tune up....that was always known....he was afforded golovkin the luxury of testing 168 first against a 168 lb fighter

        golovkin fans have argued "you expect golovkin to move up and face the top 168 guy the first time out? thats not really fair is it"? and i agree....which is why ward proposed golovkin get a chance to get his feet wet at 168 first....and ward had been out of the ring for awhile and hadnt faced any real good comp in awhile so he too likely wanted another fight
        wow thats so nice of him! so he blew his chance at the ggg fight becasue he wanted ggg to be ready and so he simply forgot that ggg was supposed to fight the cotto canelo winner at the same time? and ward just fought paul smith. he needed another tune up?

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          #54
          the way people twist things is unbelievable. have some backbone. at first it was ggg ducked ward to fight lemiuex. now its ward just wanted ggg to be ready at 168 lmao. sorry ggg was never going to delay the canelo fight for ward. you can try to twist the facts any way you like but that offer was never going to be accepted. both parties knew that. it was for publicity only. you wanted to label ggg a ducker so you ran with it. im just here to expose your cloudy thinking and lack of research/critical thinking. when people say floyd ducked margarito its because there is a mountain of evidence. when people say ggg ducked ward its based on this nonsense offer that is easily ripped apart...if you want to use your brain. if you just want ggg to be a ducker then yeah dont look into it, dont look at context, dont do anything but read the headline

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            #55
            Originally posted by daggum
            im not lying. there is literally an entire thread on it already man...it was a multi fight deal. not a one fight deal. you got tricked by ward. check the dates.

            the wbc said even before ward made the offer...

            May 15, 2015
            Sulaiman: Cotto-Canelo Winner Must Face Golovkin


            June 2015
            Michael Yormak of Roc Nation, representing Ward, the proposal stipulated that both fighters would have one interim bout before meeting in 2016

            that doesnt sound like ward thought it was a tune up at all. ward himself needed more tune ups to fight ggg! ward wanted ggg to fight him instead of the canelo cotto winner! absurd. this is what i mean when people just dont do research
            So Wilder was right to turn down Dazn deal now?(that must be what you're claiming)

            And the (delaying the Canelo fight thing is pure fabrication especially considering ggg was all over saying he wanted all the best champions between 154-168,& he was claiming he couldn't get non bums to fight,& you're bs argument is even more rediculous considering he dragged up a ww to 160 ffs,& didn't have any agreement to fight anyone let alone Canelo,to top it off it further demonstrated ggg avoiding bigger elite fighters like the plague,he doesn't like being the shorter guy jor the smaller guy unless its vs a bum,he wanted nothing but who he perceived as much smaller disadvantaged opponents who he felt he could bully by dragging them up to 160 & have a height reach advantage over. Ggg only wanted Canelo because he felt he was getting him still green for mw & with every disadvantage as well as knowing he would never get mega rich without beating him or Ward.(ggg ALWAYS chose the fighter who most embodied these criteria & avoided those who didn't,which is why he dragged Jacobs out a yr over a few hundred k & was the Bbb side to Brook & offered Rosado a cw but not Cotto/Canelo,& wanted Fmj at 154 but Ward at a cw then not at all.)

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            • kushking
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              #56
              Originally posted by Curt Henning
              ward did propose each guy take one tune up....that was always known....he was afforded golovkin the luxury of testing 168 first against a 168 lb fighter

              golovkin fans have argued "you expect golovkin to move up and face the top 168 guy the first time out? thats not really fair is it"? and i agree....which is why ward proposed golovkin get a chance to get his feet wet at 168 first....and ward had been out of the ring for awhile and hadnt faced any real good comp in awhile so he too likely wanted another fight
              Him offering ggg a tune-up because he was making excuses about being a lil mw,does not equate to Ward DEMANDING a multiple fight deal like Daggum erroneously claims,Ward considered ggg easy work tune up & offered to fight him next but ggg refused.

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                #57
                Originally posted by daggum
                wow thats so nice of him! so he blew his chance at the ggg fight becasue he wanted ggg to be ready and so he simply forgot that ggg was supposed to fight the cotto canelo winner at the same time? and ward just fought paul smith. he needed another tune up?
                try being real with yourself....he didnt blow anything....because even if he said "lets fight next" golovkin still wouldnt have taken it...you and everybody else know this

                you even imply it yourself when you said "he was supposed to fight the canelo/cotto" winner....but youre too dumb to realize youd did that

                you cant tell us he was waiting for the canelo/cotto winner and that ward blew a chance to get fight at the same time...you implied golovkin wasnt going to take it beacuse he had that fight awaiting yet you will accuse ward of killing the fight...it cant be both...but youre too dumb to realize how dumb you are

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  the way people twist things is unbelievable. have some backbone. at first it was ggg ducked ward to fight lemiuex. now its ward just wanted ggg to be ready at 168 lmao. sorry ggg was never going to delay the canelo fight for ward. you can try to twist the facts any way you like but that offer was never going to be accepted. both parties knew that. it was for publicity only. you wanted to label ggg a ducker so you ran with it. im just here to expose your cloudy thinking and lack of research/critical thinking. when people say floyd ducked margarito its because there is a mountain of evidence. when people say ggg ducked ward its based on this nonsense offer that is easily ripped apart...if you want to use your brain. if you just want ggg to be a ducker then yeah dont look into it, dont look at context, dont do anything but read the headline
                  great job golovkin....you ducked out on the ward fight for the cotto/canelo winner.....ward contacted you in 2015 to fight in 2016...you fought dom wade and kell brook and didnt get canelo until sept 2017 lol

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Curt Henning
                    great job golovkin....you ducked out on the ward fight for the cotto/canelo winner.....ward contacted you in 2015 to fight in 2016...you fought dom wade and kell brook and didnt get canelo until sept 2017 lol
                    Have you ever noticed that what some ppl say to discredit one fighter automatically discredits other arguments they try to make to defend their favs? That what hes doing when he uses a"wouldve delayed " excuse for Ggg duckin Ward but claims Wilder is a scared coward for turning down a multiple fight contract that equated to backstabbing his team even though Wilder actually made the same amount & faced the very best non AJ opponents instead unlike Ggg.

                    Add to this his claiming Ward ducked Bute but somehow Ggg didn't duck anyone even though he has ALWAYS put up a million diva roadblocks unless he towers over his Opponent & has a reach advantage,& most times skill advantage as well as them meeting his diva demands:gloves,weight,% split etc.(especially vs the cashcow)

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by kushking
                      Have you ever noticed that what some ppl say to discredit one fighter automatically discredits other arguments they try to make to defend their favs? That what hes doing when he uses a"wouldve delayed " excuse for Ggg duckin Ward but claims Wilder is a scared coward for turning down a multiple fight contract that equated to backstabbing his team even though Wilder actually made the same amount & faced the very best non AJ opponents instead unlike Ggg.

                      Add to this his claiming Ward ducked Bute but somehow Ggg didn't duck anyone even though he has ALWAYS put up a million diva roadblocks unless he towers over his Opponent & has a reach advantage,& most times skill advantage as well as them meeting his diva demands:gloves,weight,% split etc.(especially vs the cashcow)
                      golovkin fans are the worst...they defend him at every turn and discredit more accomplished guys.....yes..ive noticed the behavior you are talking about...witnessed it way too many times....

                      ward approached golovkin in the last 1/4 of 2015 about fighting in 2016

                      these guys claim that golovkin was waiting on the canelo/cotto winner....yet still somehow want to say ward killed the fight when we all know golovkin was waiting on canelo

                      golovkin didnt get the fight till september 2017 and his 2016 slate suggests he was waiting and looking to take the least risk possible while waiting for canelo by fighting brook and wade......when i point out that canelo fight didnt happen for almost 2 years after ward contacted golovkin they say "well he was waiting on canelo...how was golovkin supposed to know it would take canelo that long to grow some balls".....i simply say "he had already been getting the run around from cotto/canelo so why would he hinge everything on canelo knowing he was already waiting longer than he should have"......

                      golovkin was never gonna fight ward....ever....yet these guys still insist somehow ward wasnt genuine and was trying to fool everyone even though he went up and fought someone, who at the time, was equally as dangerous...if not more dangerous.......golovkin is barely scraping by guys in the same division he always been in or losing to them

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