Comments Thread For: Goossen: Fury Learned New Game In One Camp; Why Can't Wilder Learn To Fight Inside?

[James Hunt]

One-trick Phony is phucked, and I like it.

[TMLT87]

I dont think Fury really learned a new game, I think he just realized after the first fight that he gave Wilder too much respect. He knew the second time around that boxing cautiously from the outside like he did vs Wlad wasnt necessary.

[jackblack008]

Stfu. My king is weeding out snakes. Soon he would learn to throw jabs as well

[SN!PER]

Wilder is the lighter, more athletic man. He should use that to his advantage. Work on stamina, speed, foot movement, feints, angles, forcing Fury to expend all of his energy while getting nailed with jabs and counters.

[angkag]

Wilder is the lighter, more athletic man. He should use that to his advantage. Work on stamina, speed, foot movement, feints, angles, forcing Fury to expend all of his energy while getting nailed with jabs and counters.

Basically if Wilder 'learns to box', he can win a boxing match with Fury. Can't disagree with that. The learning to box thing is a bit of a problem though....

[Bunch Pag]

His footwork is the worst I have ever seen in any world champion for a long time.

Always said he has lead in his boots...

Probably why he failed at Netball..

[MexicanStyle#1]

Big man with a pea size brain

Exactly - Ring IQ is way lower than that of the average bear.

[2ndroundko]

I'm not overly convinced that injuries were the reason why he didn't get in with Josua. It wasn't like he was inactive, just risk averse. Same reason he never got in with Klitschko or even Whyte.

That title and unbeaten record obviously meant so much but now both have been ripped away in such brutal fashion I could understand him being in a dark place right now.

There's definitely a build up of wear on tear on his body as his technique struggles to support his obvious power and at 35 that's an issue. But I feel like he never really wanted to roll the dice, he didn't even try for a unification with Parker for the WBO.

He was more than happy to keep his status and '0' and carry on flopping bums. I remember him once saying in an interview that he wanted to beat Mayweather's record and retire as TBE, as if they even began to compare? This might be why he avoided fights with Klitschko, Joshua and even Whyte.

The Fury fight was the very definition of a cherry pick gone wrong and he's been out of his comfort zone badly since the first fight. He wanted to rush the return to stop any further Fury improvements and when that went wrong you get the impression he felt the writing was on the wall for him, just through his demeanor. It's even worse for him now, he's been humbled and humiliated while Fury is flying higher than ever before.

you’re looking in the wrong place. fury wasnt chosen because they thought he’d be easy. wilder’s handlers know his shortcomings better than you do. he could lose on any given night and that’s especially true in the heavyweight division.

fury was chosen when joshua fell through because a big fight was needed asap to justify the slots/marketing dollars wilder was being given and recoup what was already spent before an upset occurred. only one heavyweight fit the bill.

goossen is vying for a training position. he’s too smart not to know that fury has always known how to fight coming forward, how to fight on the inside. he even did it against wallin. wilder doesn’t seem humble enough to make the right changes but you never know.

[Ray*]

I disagree with that strategy for Wilder. It's too late in his career and his boxing IQ is limited.

He needs to work on resetting hundreds of times over which means a 120% improvement in footwork. His footwork is the worst I have ever seen in any world champion for a long time especially an athletic black guy. Sure there have been some lumbering giants from Eastern Europe but you'd normally expect an athletic black champion to have better footwork.

Forget Goossen, I'd give Floyd a call and ask for footwork drills. That said, wtf is Breland doing? That guy had superb skills as a boxer - why can't he challenge Wilder, is he too much of a yes man?

It's a conundrum. I do remember Wilder showing solid skills in Stiverne 1 - he should improve on what he had there. Plus throw more feints.

Even with all that said, if we get the Wilder of the first Fury fight then he is still very dangerous. There was something 'off' about him in the second fight.

Breland is obviously NOT a yes man, he was the ONE who threw in the towel. And its well known that Breland isn't always happy with Wilder's performances even when Wilder wins and stops his opponents. Breland is the one that was locked outside of Wilder's dressing room because he didn't let him take a beaten like his other Yes men said he should have.

I have mentioned many times in regards to the Wilder from first Bermane fight, how his focus wasn't just to land the right hand. He was actually boxing like he did in the olympics. Now he has totally fall in love with his power.

We got the Wilder from the first fight in the second fight, what happened to him was his cherry pick from the first fight was NOW fully match fit. Fury should never had fought him after that long lay off, after only two fights back against proper cruiserweight/journeyman of the HW.
After he got fully fit thats the result from the second fight. The reality is Wilder was never a good boxer, and the power he had fighting f-level boxers gave him a sense of delusional mind.

[steeve steel]

Goosen licking bronze balls to get the gig... but his strategy is all wrong. Wilder is 34... not 24. Get him in shape, lighter and faster, work on the 1-2- move to the side, and hope for the best.