Floyd Mayweather never had a Marquee opponent!

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A lot of people love mentioning Castillo and Pacquiao when they talk about Floyd. So those are his marquee names.

Floyd was never really in any “wars” until he was past prime vs Maidana, and I guess you can say Cotto gave an older Floyd a good fight.

Some fighters in history were too good for their opposition to have a someone mentioned with them in the same sentence.

I agreee and you get it.

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this thread have only 2 pages those are rookie numbers ,gotta pump those numbers , keep it up boys

It’s growing.

[GrandpaBernard]

I really do not get the loser mentality of, if you didnt have to fight a guy 5 times then you were not great

If you didnt have to struggle with many people you arent great

wtf is that???

dont worry about it

He’s the ONLY person on this forum who repeats must rematch even after the fighter won easily as long as his opponent is great

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Floyd/Pac was the highest grossing prize fight of all time. Must have been something to it.

Not skill wise to “push” Floyd to the next level or to show case his skills. Floyd beat manny one headed. It’s not about the money. It’s about it’s about competitive level rivalry that pushes a fighter past their skill barrier.

Batman - Joker
Superman - Darkseid
Goku - Vegata
Goku - Frieza
Ali - Frazier
Ken - Ryu ( street fighter)

Floyd never had that because he was so good. It’s not about the money.

[GrandpaBernard]

Not skill wise to “push” Floyd to the next level or to show case his skills. Floyd beat manny one headed. It’s not about the money. It’s about it’s about competitive level rivalry that pushes a fighter past their skill barrier.

Batman - Joker
Superman - Darkseid
Goku - Vegata
Goku - Frieza
Ali - Frazier
Ken - Ryu ( street fighter)

Floyd never had that because he was so good. It’s not about the money.

The guys who did push Floyd to go super saiyan weren’t able to sustain it.

Floyd showed a sense of urgency in round 3 to get back at Shane for round 2

[IronDanHamza]

I think you missed the point but thank you for reading.

I don’t think you understand what the word “marquee” means.

I would suggest you refer to an online dictionary.

[LADIV]

In boxing most fighters are associated with other fighters that define each other’s career. One name mention and instantly another name gets attached to that one particular fighter. However, Floyd Mayweather seems to be the only fighter in the world that seems not to be in this situation. Not understanding what I mean? Let’s break it down.

When we think of Ali , Frazier’s name should jump straight in your mind and to a lesser stent Foremen.

Pacquiao- Marquez
Forrest - Mosley
Mosley - Delahoya
Tarver - Jones Jr
Bradley - Pacquiao
Froch - Ward
Taylor - Hopkins
Pavlik - Taylor
GGG - Canelo
Leonard - Duran
Hearns - Leonard
Hagler - Leonard
Morales - Berrea
Holyfield- Tyson
Gatti - Ward

Even in UFC you can see to Ones peanut butter there’s a jelly.

Ortiz - Lidell
McGregor - Diaz and Khabib
And etc.

There’s no fighter that really was matched with Floyd besides manny. However they only fought one. Floyd was the favorite and it really wasn’t competitive. Maidana And Castillo are the only two fighters you can honestly say made Floyd “Work” for his win. Let’s be honest 9/10 times Floyd out boxes and land slide beats both boxers. The fact that Floyd had two off nights in his career proves how good he was to still win.

Yes, manny is a P4P great due to the fact he was a smaller fighter that was able to move up Multiple Weight classes but Still manages to have a lot more road bumps in his career.

When we think of Floyd. We honestly can’t really find a clear opponent to say, yes that was Floyd’s Ken to his Ryu.


Floyd will go down and be remembered for three things in boxing.

1.the greatest defensive fighter ever.

2. Being Undefeated. (Point Blank)

3. The Roy Jones Measuring sticks curse.

Now 3 three is an important part of this discussion. Roy just like Floyd were levels ahead of their opponents. Just like Roy to a lesser point very less. Never fought anybody on their level while at their prime facing a prime opponent. Roy did was janes toney. Ok fine bit outside of that. Roy’s prime was amazing against sub par fighters out side Griffith ok. When Roy got to a live body in Traver things started to look different. Yes I know Roy was older and just got back from heavyweight. But before that he had no measuring stick. However Roy was Travors Marquee Opponent in his career and vice verse. It’s hard not to think about Roy and not Travor.

Now Floyd is a special case. Hatton and others were in their prime but Floyd was so good it just didn’t matter but once again There’s no justifiable name that comes to mind that we can honest match up with Floyd in his career.


Floyd is was so good he just didn’t have one and it wasn’t his fault. Yes manny will go down more popular but not necessarily better.

TMT.

dont forget to add number 4 ...as floyd being the only fighter in boxing history to pay his opponent 1.5 million dollars not to wear his nsac approved gloves../ thread

[JK1700]

I wholeheartedly agree with that last part. You have a very interesting take on Floyd's career being split into 3. You're the first I've ever heard that from. I split it into two, PBF & MM, as I'm sure you'd guess.
What do you say was the difference between your idea of MM vs TBE?

I broke it down in another post. Basically my summary was this - As we know PBF was a monster and knocked out a lot of his opponents. Money Mayweather was still a great fighter but by this point his body was breaking down so we saw a change in style/approach. Floyd became less aggressive and more of a counterpuncher in most fights instead of just a few. He was still aggressive when he needed to be but he had the perfect balance of knowing when to do be offensive/defensive a lot more. I saw this change around the DLH/Hatton fights. It was the tail end of his prime to me but you could see he was still very if not more physically strong at this point. Like I remember the Mosley fight and Floyd was only throwing 1-2 shots at a time so he wasn’t the same but physically I was like wow he looked way stronger than Mosley who was supposed to be the “big puncher”.

Money Mayweather was also the point where he really became a huge star. Fighting De La Hoya and Hatton was a huge part of that. The Hatton fight especially was a genius move because it introduced him to the UK fans which certainly helped a lot in getting to where he got to. There’s no Conor McGregor fight without the Ricky Hatton fight. That along with 24/7 was a huge help in growing his popularity. “Retiring” and coming back didn’t hurt either haha. The “Money” persona was absolute genius. Nobody pays to see a nice guy. Whereas if you are the bad guy you attract people who want to see you lose and win. He said years later it was all an act and it certainly worked didn’t it? Lol.

He became TBE to me after the whole jail situation. That and just age in general clearly had an impact on him. You could see he wasn’t as strong/active around those final years and was winning fights more with his IQ than anything else. The 2nd Maidana fight was a perfect example. I thought it was a masterful performance but Floyd from Guerrero onwards was clearly a few steps down from the guy that walked down and destroyed Mosley a few years earlier. It’s a testament to his IQ that he still beat Maidana/Canelo/Pacquiao etc handily despite that but he wasn’t as athletic/powerful as he was years earlier although he showed glimpses. I thought he looked unbelievable against Marquez/Mosley and Cotto but his later performances were a lot more measured and careful. Plus he said himself he kinda lost passion for boxing near the end and I noticed that a bit. I feel like Maidana/Pacquiao and definitely Guerrero probably wouldn’t have gone the distance against PBF/Money May but TBE was content to just outbox them and go cash that cheque. Lol. Still a great fighter but I would say PBF was the monster and TBE was the master, and Money Mayweather was the perfect balance of both.

[GrandpaBernard]

I like the TBE style. A nice jab is good. Jabbing makes boxing

[Ritz Kola]

I broke it down in another post. Basically my summary was this - As we know PBF was a monster and knocked out a lot of his opponents. Money Mayweather was still a great fighter but by this point his body was breaking down so we saw a change in style/approach. Floyd became less aggressive and more of a counterpuncher in most fights instead of just a few. He was still aggressive when he needed to be but he had the perfect balance of knowing when to do be offensive/defensive a lot more. I saw this change around the DLH/Hatton fights. It was the tail end of his prime to me but you could see he was still very if not more physically strong at this point. Like I remember the Mosley fight and Floyd was only throwing 1-2 shots at a time so he wasn’t the same but physically I was like wow he looked way stronger than Mosley who was supposed to be the “big puncher”.

Money Mayweather was also the point where he really became a huge star. Fighting De La Hoya and Hatton was a huge part of that. The Hatton fight especially was a genius move because it introduced him to the UK fans which certainly helped a lot in getting to where he got to. There’s no Conor McGregor fight without the Ricky Hatton fight. That along with 24/7 was a huge help in growing his popularity. “Retiring” and coming back didn’t hurt either haha. The “Money” persona was absolute genius. Nobody pays to see a nice guy. Whereas if you are the bad guy you attract people who want to see you lose and win. He said years later it was all an act and it certainly worked didn’t it? Lol.

He became TBE to me after the whole jail situation. That and just age in general clearly had an impact on him. You could see he wasn’t as strong/active around those final years and was winning fights more with his IQ than anything else. The 2nd Maidana fight was a perfect example. I thought it was a masterful performance but Floyd from Guerrero onwards was clearly a few steps down from the guy that walked down and destroyed Mosley a few years earlier. It’s a testament to his IQ that he still beat Maidana/Canelo/Pacquiao etc handily despite that but he wasn’t as athletic/powerful as he was years earlier although he showed glimpses. I thought he looked unbelievable against Marquez/Mosley and Cotto but his later performances were a lot more measured and careful. Plus he said himself he kinda lost passion for boxing near the end and I noticed that a bit. I feel like Maidana/Pacquiao and definitely Guerrero probably wouldn’t have gone the distance against PBF/Money May but TBE was content to just outbox them and go cash that cheque. Lol. Still a great fighter but I would say PBF was the monster and TBE was the master, and Money Mayweather was the perfect balance of both.

An excellent post main man. The Hatton fight was the end of his Prime. When he came back he was Money May. Yeah man everything you just said was on point. And made me think- yeah Floyd definitely did show a difference during the time period you monikered as TBE. I'll start using three eras of Floyd from now on.