Floyd Mayweather never had a Marquee opponent!

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  • Jedi Vader
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    #81
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    I will never call you ******, I'm not arrogant like Floyd fanboys are. I will call you a Floyd fanboy though as That's what you are.

    I'll leave it up to audience to see you are dodging the topic in hand.
    Even boxers who were schooled in first fights were given rematches and won rematches. And we know Floyd schooled nobody.
    Let's imagine Floyd schooled dlh, Pac and nel o in imaginary scenario.
    In his career we still don't know how well he fairs in rematches. He never answered questions. Wasn't willing to.
    So can't be mentioned as a higher echelon ATG, he didn't do what was required
    You are beyond ******.

    A schooling answers every question asked. Floyd schooled a lot of his foes, including Manny, Canelo, De La Hoya, Marquez etc.

    He also beat Mosley very easily, Hatton and Cotto. Now when we also factor in that famous Boxing Scene quote of yours, in my sig and by your admission, Floyd is an ATG.

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      #82
      Originally posted by Jedi Vader
      You are beyond ******.

      A schooling answers every question asked. Floyd schooled a lot of his foes, including Manny, Canelo, De La Hoya, Marquez etc.

      He also beat Mosley very easily, Hatton and Cotto. Now when we also factor in that famous Boxing Scene quote of yours, in my sig and by your admission, Floyd is an ATG.
      1 win answers no questions. Pac would beat Floyd 2 out of 3 times and floyd wasnt willing to prove otherwise. People wanted to know how Floyd would do in 3 fights with biggest rivals. People don't care how Floyd did in 1 controversial fight, whether he did good or not so good. 3 fights answers more questions.

      SRR can beat peers 4 out of 5 times Pac can win 3 out of 3 if not robbed, or scorecard errors. Floyd, he is a mysterious bugger not willing to wear heart on sleeve. Giving very little, so why should he get respect he wants? He didn't give us answers to our questions, poo pooing questions as not important? Floyd fans say Floyd beats pac 10 out of ten times, yet thinks beating Pac once equals 10 times if they keep saying Floyd schooled pac?

      Floyd is top 25 ATG. Who knows, if he had of beat his big banana rivals in rematches and in their backyards he might be sitting pretty in top 10 by now
      But we will never know now
      Last edited by hugh grant; 05-26-2020, 07:38 AM.

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        #83
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        Ok so when you typed out that definition, did you read it?

        Having or associated with name recognition and attraction

        .....Attraction....

        You remember the part where Floyd has the 3 highest PPV events in history, right?

        That is literally, by definition, 3 marquee opponents. Literally.

        How could it possibly be clear what you are referring to when you’ve just linked someone being a marquee opponent to their skill level? Perhaps you should look up “clearly” in the dictionary also.

        I would suggest further revision in general.
        Ok I am done. It’s over your head.

        I just stated the average fan wouldn’t even know Floyd’s top 3 PPV fights. And you didn’t even address my statement.

        Ok.

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          #84
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          Give this guy a metal

          I think the word you are looking for is there is “medal”.

          What were you saying about 9th Grade reading comprehension?

          Wow. You really must be enjoying this unemployment paycheck you are receiving during this pandemic. Nothing better to do but look for typos on boxing scene lol.

          Good for you. Glad you can finally achieve something in life.

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            #85
            Originally posted by FeFist
            Didn't have a marque win but 1/3 of the names you listed are on his resume.

            Sure.
            Further details and examples ?

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              #86
              Originally posted by JcLazyX210
              Thank you Hugh you get it.

              ^^^^^^
              Not at all, thank you for saying a lot of what everybody thinks
              Last edited by hugh grant; 05-26-2020, 10:42 AM.

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                #87
                Originally posted by JcLazyX210
                In boxing most fighters are associated with other fighters that define each other’s career. One name mention and instantly another name gets attached to that one particular fighter. However, Floyd Mayweather seems to be the only fighter in the world that seems not to be in this situation. Not understanding what I mean? Let’s break it down.

                When we think of Ali , Frazier’s name should jump straight in your mind and to a lesser stent Foremen.

                Pacquiao- Marquez
                Forrest - Mosley
                Mosley - Delahoya
                Tarver - Jones Jr
                Bradley - Pacquiao
                Froch - Kessler
                Taylor - Hopkins
                Pavlik - Taylor
                GGG - Canelo
                Leonard - Duran
                Hearns - Leonard
                Hagler - Leonard
                Morales - Berrea
                Holyfield- Tyson
                Gatti - Ward

                Even in UFC you can see to Ones peanut butter there’s a jelly.

                Ortiz - Lidell
                McGregor - Diaz and Khabib
                And etc.

                There’s no fighter that really was matched with Floyd besides manny. However they only fought one. Floyd was the favorite and it really wasn’t competitive. Maidana And Castillo are the only two fighters you can honestly say made Floyd “Work” for his win. Let’s be honest 9/10 times Floyd out boxes and land slide beats both boxers. The fact that Floyd had two off nights in his career proves how good he was to still win.

                Yes, manny is a P4P great due to the fact he was a smaller fighter that was able to move up Multiple Weight classes but Still manages to have a lot more road bumps in his career.

                When we think of Floyd. We honestly can’t really find a clear opponent to say, yes that was Floyd’s Ken to his Ryu.


                Floyd will go down and be remembered for three things in boxing.

                1.the greatest defensive fighter ever.

                2. Being Undefeated. (Point Blank)

                3. The Roy Jones Measuring sticks curse.

                Now 3 three is an important part of this discussion. Roy just like Floyd were levels ahead of their opponents. Just like Roy to a lesser point very less. Never fought anybody on their level while at their prime facing a prime opponent. Roy did beat james toney. Ok fine but outside of that. Roy’s prime was amazing against sub par fighters out side Griffith. When Roy got to a live body in Traver things started to look different. Yes I know Roy was older and just got back from heavyweight. But before that he had no measuring stick. However Roy was Travors Marquee Opponent in his career and vice verse. It’s hard not to think about Roy and not Travor.

                Now Floyd is a special case. Hatton and others were in their prime but Floyd was so good it just didn’t matter but once again There’s no justifiable name that comes to mind that we can honest match up with Floyd in his career.


                Floyd is was so good he just didn’t have one and it wasn’t his fault. Yes manny will go down more popular but not necessarily better.

                TBE.
                Floyd wasnt TBE. He's a Top 20 fighter no question about it and hes both more popular and BETTER than Manny.

                Floyd holds all the PPV records not Manny. And theres a reason for that.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Jedi Vader
                  You are beyond ******.

                  A schooling answers every question asked. Floyd schooled a lot of his foes, including Manny, Canelo, De La Hoya, Marquez etc.

                  He also beat Mosley very easily, Hatton and Cotto. Now when we also factor in that famous Boxing Scene quote of yours, in my sig and by your admission, Floyd is an ATG.
                  Floyd didnt school DLH and I'm not convinced Floyd definitely beats a prime DLH at WW

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by JcLazyX210
                    Ok I am done. It’s over your head.

                    I just stated the average fan wouldn’t even know Floyd’s top 3 PPV fights. And you didn’t even address my statement.

                    Ok.
                    You stating your opinion is irrelevant.

                    Every single boxing fan in the world would obviously be able to list those fights.

                    And again, BY DEFINITION Floyd’s 3 highest PPV fights were unquestionably marquee opponents.

                    I think you should probably start the thread again and use a more suitable word.

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                      #90
                      There doesn't need to be a case made for why Floyd is TBE, there only needs to be cases made for why he wouldn't be...
                      A short list of accomplishments.
                      -greatest +/- hit ratio in Boxing history
                      -longest reigning p4p streak in Boxing history
                      -undefeated
                      -greatest resume in Boxing history
                      -greatest defense in boxing history
                      -greatest accuracy in Boxing history
                      -ONE KD that came from breaking his hand and touching the floor with it in pain
                      -NEVER been put on the canvas
                      -Never been dropped
                      -5 division WORLD champion
                      -ONLY fighter in history to be simultaneously unified in two divisions at once with: 147 lineal/ring/wbc/wba/wbo + 154 lineal/ring/wbc/wba
                      -has schooled opponents in every fight BUT ONE- and schooled said opponent in the rematch (Castillo)
                      -has EASILY beaten another ATG then had the guy crying, lying, and making excuses
                      -No cherrypicks in between championship fighters unlike Manny Pacquiao
                      -Fought 16 consecutive world champs back to back which is UNHEARD OF IN BOXING HISTORY

                      Short list with nothing but the facts void of any opinion.

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