Floyd Mayweather never had a Marquee opponent!

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I stopped reading there..... GTFOH

Hahaha

[MulaKO]

give this guy a metal

I think the word you are looking for is there is “medal”.

What were you saying about 9th grade reading comprehension?

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[Jedi Vader]

Not doing rematches was a bad move he's badly advized. Every great fighter fought rematch or triologies.
When you think of willie pep you got Sandy sadler. When you think srl you think duran or hearns.

You need to give biggest rivals rematches. Even if your fans don't want it, it's not just your fans you need to think of. You want to silence your opponents fans or your critics.

Who should he have rematched?

[hugh grant]

Who should he have rematched?

Because he hasn't got much evidence of how he does in 2 fights against opponents, and no evidence of how he does in rematches with the bigger names, he should have rematched pac and dlh and to be TBE rematches nel o at 160.

You need to tick boxes in a career. Boxing fans have many questions they need answering. And if you don't answer the questions it's because you wanted to be mysterious. We are left wondering what would have happened if Floyd fought Pac in philipines, or nel o in mexico, what style would floyd show?
Not just the same hard to hit style, show us your hagler v Hearn s style you got hidden up sleeve when you know being robbed is a real possibility.

Simply do what your peers have done throughout boxing history. People don't like it when Floyd fans say Floyd was above it, that's arrogance and delusions of grandeur.

[FeFist]

Didn't have a marque win but 1/3 of the names you listed are on his resume.

Sure.

[Gate keeper]

Floyd was levels above anyone and everyone in his career. There’s never been a fighter that beat more world champions and he only had 1 close fight his whole career to me. Castillo 1 was close but Floyd still won despite being injured and completely dominated the rematch. He was so dominant that whenever a guy won more than 3 rounds (Maidana, Castillo, arguably De La Hoya) people went crazy and said he nearly lost. It got to a point where Floyd just had to get stunned in a fight and people went CRAZY (Mosley). Other top fighters get rocked like that every fight. With Floyd people were SHOCKED lol. “He almost got KO’d!!!”.

Plain and simple there’s never been a fighter more skilled in boxing history. You guys can come at me with all these different names and who you “like” more and they may be more popular and therefore have a better “legacy” than Floyd. For instance Muhammad Ali he’s bigger than boxing. I’m just talking skills though. Floyd is the smartest and most skilled fighter ever and that makes him TBE. Not the most popular, not the most exciting but all around the board there has never been anyone better. He’s the best ever.

Haters can/will nitpick his resume but he beat a who’s who of great champions and fought all the greats over almost a 20 year career. People fall in love with nostalgia and don’t like Floyd so it’s hard for them to admit it but we will never see another fighter as good. In the 5 years since he retired you can’t even say who’s the best in the sport and Floyd is still the number one trending topic on this forum despite being almost 45. That says it all. It’s a shame that some people are only starting to see it now but that’s the way it goes. It was the same with Ali people hated his guts while he was fighting and now they love him. The same thing is happening with Floyd.

I really hate that "world champions" talk. I'm not going to close my eyes and ignore nuance because of the term "world champion", which is often a political facade vs proof of talent. Charles Martin, Liam Smith and someone with the boxing acumen of Deontay Wilder were world champions btw. Keep that in mind.

And as far as Mayweather, the simple fact is he never beat a single great fighter in their prime at a comfortable weight. Any ATG could've came close to doing what he did by beating fighters before or after their prime, Canelo is following a similar blueprint now. It's really not that big a deal. I give Ward far more credit for going up in weight in fighting Kovalev when he was an undefeated killer, not after a ko, not after a loss, not weight drained, not coming out of retirement. That one win is better than anything on Floyd's resume. Canelo beating GGG in the 2nd fight and at least fighting him in the first on the tail end of his prime is better than anything on Floyd's resume. You can pretty much find any ATG with at least 1 or 2 wins that easily eclipses Floyd's entire resume - Yet the safer path Floyd took gets more credit? To you it might but not me. Yes, Floyd was extremely consistent against decent but not great competition, but that's it. Let's not pretend he was beating killer after killer after killer. No one can stay undefeated for that long fighting killers, not even ATG's. It's not a thing. Don't let Floyd hoodwink you in to thinking he's done some impossibly amazing feat by staying undefeated for so long. Even great fighters lose, in the end, it's just a question of how analyzing how they lost and won when comparing with the greats.

[djtmal]

I really hate that "world champions" talk. I'm not going to close my eyes and ignore nuance because of the term "world champion", which is often a political facade vs proof of talent. Charles Martin, Liam Smith and someone with the boxing acumen of Deontay Wilder were world champions btw. Keep that in mind.

And as far as Mayweather, the simple fact is he never beat a single great fighter in their prime at a comfortable weight. Any ATG could've came close to doing what he did by beating fighters before or after their prime, Canelo is following a similar blueprint now. It's really not that big a deal. I give Ward far more credit for going up in weight in fighting Kovalev when he was an undefeated killer, not after a ko, not after a loss, not weight drained, not coming out of retirement. That one win is better than anything on Floyd's resume. Canelo beating GGG in the 2nd fight and at least fighting him in the first on the tail end of his prime is better than anything on Floyd's resume. You can pretty much find any ATG with at least 1 or 2 wins that easily eclipses Floyd's entire resume - Yet the safer path Floyd took gets more credit? To you it might but not me. Yes, Floyd was extremely consistent against decent but not great competition, but that's it. Let's not pretend he was beating killer after killer after killer. No one can stay undefeated for that long fighting killers, not even ATG's. It's not a thing. Don't let Floyd hoodwink you in to thinking he's done some impossibly amazing feat by staying undefeated for so long. Even great fighters lose, in the end, it's just a question of how analyzing how they lost and won when comparing with the greats.

Drops mic....

[nubianpiye]

Because he was better than everyone

[Jedi Vader]

Because he hasn't got much evidence of how he does in 2 fights against opponents, and no evidence of how he does in rematches with the bigger names, he should have rematched pac and dlh and to be TBE rematches nel o at 160.

You need to tick boxes in a career. Boxing fans have many questions they need answering. And if you don't answer the questions it's because you wanted to be mysterious. We are left wondering what would have happened if Floyd fought Pac in philipines, or nel o in mexico, what style would floyd show?
Not just the same hard to hit style, show us your hagler v Hearn s style you got hidden up sleeve when you know being robbed is a real possibility.

Simply do what your peers have done throughout boxing history. People don't like it when Floyd fans say Floyd was above it, that's arrogance and delusions of grandeur.

Against Manny, De La Hoya and Canelo, he showed by completely schooling them, that he only needed evidence in one outing.

I have to constantly repeat this to you because you're too ****** to let it sink in.

[hugh grant]

Against Manny, De La Hoya and Canelo, he showed by completely schooling them, that he only needed evidence in one outing.

I have to constantly repeat this to you because you're too ****** to let it sink in.

I will never call you ******, I'm not arrogant like Floyd fanboys are. I will call you a Floyd fanboy though as That's what you are.

I'll leave it up to audience to see you are dodging the topic in hand.
Even boxers who were schooled in first fights were given rematches and won rematches. And we know Floyd schooled nobody.
Let's imagine Floyd schooled dlh, Pac and nel o in imaginary scenario.
In his career we still don't know how well he fairs in rematches, let alone triologies. We want to know how Floyd does in 3 fights with peers? Can he win 2 out of 3? We know SRr can. We know Pac can! Floyd it's all up in air, we don't know it's all speculation. He never answered questions. Wasn't willing to.
So can't be mentioned as a higher echelon ATG, he didn't do what was required