GGG or Sergio Martinez??? Who leaves a more respected legacy

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  • creekrat77
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    #21
    Definitely Golovkin without a question. I was a big fan of Sergio. He always got a bad rap and had to force his way into big fights like Golovkin. Sergio's best moment was finally dominating JCC Jr. A fight that had been getting away from him for years and a fight a lot of fans thought would cement his legacy. And it did. Although I mean he was almost brutally KO'd at the end. His devastating KO over Williams was also something to behold. In a way, he avenged his loss to Margarito with that win. I think from a fan perspective Sergio set an example for young kids around the world that you can become a revered boxing champion no matter what your surroundings are. Sergio started in boxing late in comparison to Golovkin who was a standout amateur. I'd almost compare his situation to Fury and Wilder. Fury was a good amateur that was passed over time and time again. Wilder walked into boxing late like Sergio but quickly became a hot must see prospect. Sergio had a lot going against him and he was able to become a great champion.

    I believe Golovkin will always be the better fighter. I remember in Sergio's twilight years a reporter asked him about this guy Golovkin making noise at middleweight. He said Golovkin was off the charts. Just on a completely different level. The sentiment at the time was Sergio clearly not going to fight him as he himself was pushing 40. Golovkin waited too long and took too many liberties in his career. By the time he lined up fights like Jacobs and Canelo, he wasn't the same killer.

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    • BodyBagz
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      #22
      Originally posted by creekrat77
      Definitely Golovkin without a question. I was a big fan of Sergio. He always got a bad rap and had to force his way into big fights like Golovkin. Sergio's best moment was finally dominating JCC Jr. A fight that had been getting away from him for years and a fight a lot of fans thought would cement his legacy. And it did. Although I mean he was almost brutally KO'd at the end. His devastating KO over Williams was also something to behold. In a way, he avenged his loss to Margarito with that win. I think from a fan perspective Sergio set an example for young kids around the world that you can become a revered boxing champion no matter what your surroundings are. Sergio started in boxing late in comparison to Golovkin who was a standout amateur. I'd almost compare his situation to Fury and Wilder. Fury was a good amateur that was passed over time and time again. Wilder walked into boxing late like Sergio but quickly became a hot must see prospect. Sergio had a lot going against him and he was able to become a great champion.

      I believe Golovkin will always be the better fighter. I remember in Sergio's twilight years a reporter asked him about this guy Golovkin making noise at middleweight. He said Golovkin was off the charts. Just on a completely different level. The sentiment at the time was Sergio clearly not going to fight him as he himself was pushing 40. Golovkin waited too long and took too many liberties in his career. By the time he lined up fights like Jacobs and Canelo, he wasn't the same killer.
      I'd say Sergio had many more moments than GGG. From the 1st Paul fight to Murray. I'd expect guys like Serg to take the high road when it comes to critiquing other guys.

      GGG has Jacobs (while talented, Quillin is his only signature win). That flash kd lost it for him vs GGG. If Mora had real power....
      GGG at the most logical best is 1-1 vs Nelo.
      The 2nd fight > the 1st performance wise.
      Nelo elevated his game while GGG still relied on his jab and headhunting.

      Talents aside, true fans of the sport have to go by actual resumes. Prior to Jacobs, GGG's resume is pretty sad.

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      • Jedi Vader
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        #23
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        Ggg. He lost and drew with nel o but we saw him beat nel o twice.
        When did this happen?

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        • ramses07
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          #24
          moves up in weight and decisions a way big name in Kelly pavlik

          KO's a boogey man Paul williams

          and yall are saying GGG?

          lol

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          • Cobra Curry
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            #25
            It's a shame they never fought.

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            • Zaroku
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              #26
              Originally posted by JohnCastellanos
              GGG was given a lot more opportunity’s and took less risk. Sergio stepped up to the plate more
              Sergio did make a strong case for himself stopping Paul Williams ...

              GGG has a great chin ... but a plodding style.. styles make fights..

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              • BoxingIsGreat
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                #27
                I'd go with Martinez. His career is memorable. Golovkin, not so much.

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                • Blond Beast
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by paulf
                  Golovkin obviously; Martinez was red hot.... burned out quickly. But that year period where he fought Pavlik and Williams twice, that was about an epic a run as a boxer can have.

                  Martinez only defended a title once in his career (Williams rematch), no comparison to someone that was middleweight champion for eight years.
                  Can’t argue with that. I liked both guys. I remember when Martinez was training for Cotto. They pushed the cameras away when it was time for Martinez to train, made me concerned. A picture of Martinez came out of him looking pretty chubby for a guy that was known as a once cyclist and usually in great shape, made me concerned. Just before the fight my Dad said that Martinez “Was leaking oil”, made me concerned. Still I believed in him. But he showed up with two knee braces and moved like his feet were glued to the canvas. I was humbled.

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                  • kidbazooka
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                    #29
                    Let’s see Govkins best win Jacobs easily but that win was debatable alotta folks thought Jacobs deserved it.

                    Martinez best win a 2nd rd brutal one punch KO of the usually iron chinned Williams.

                    Martinez easily the better fighter and better resume if the two.

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                    • boliodogs
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by paulf
                      Golovkin obviously; Martinez was red hot.... burned out quickly. But that year period where he fought Pavlik and Williams twice, that was about an epic a run as a boxer can have.

                      Martinez only defended a title once in his career (Williams rematch), no comparison to someone that was middleweight champion for eight years.
                      Not only that. GGG tried to fight Martinez when Martinez was champion and Martinez would not fight him and turned down the offer to fight. I think that says it all. On top of that GGG never lost a fight until the debatable lost to Canelo in Canelo's boxing back yard of Vegas. GGG had a KO win streak of 22 KOs in a row. GGG tied Hopkin's record of 20 successful defenses of the middleweight world title. In contrast Martinez lost several times including KO losses to Margarito, Williams and Cotto. Martinez was not on the same level. GGG was much better and will be remembered as better.

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