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You can take your Sugars and Armstrong and what nots and brag about their resume until the cows come home, you can brag about the weights they covered right there with their resume too. It don't really mean that much in All Time to me.
Resume is something that will fade, no one will care in a hundred years, no one will care in a thousand for damn sure. None of you give any ****s about Klietomachos at all.
Weight? What does Pythagoras of Samos mean to you? How about Tommy Ryan? Hmm....is it exclusively a GOAT marker for modern boxing? Not Queensberry, Tommy did that, but modern? from like the 30s-now? Those are the only guys whose names rest against high rank opposition at multiple weight classes or actual weights?
What I'm trying to say is SRR, SRL, Armstrong, you know, you usual GOAT names, did absolutely nothing original in the sport as a whole but rather something special and original in their era of sport. When times change, so will the fans' interpretation of these men AND their importance to the sport.
Bob Fitzsimmons is the first MW to HW except that was actually really normal in bare knuckle and Bob was a transition figure....so....was it really anything but timing?
Roy Jones Jr is the first, and the only man to weigh at MW, go up to HW and weigh at HW, and be champion. Bob weighed his middleweight weight at heavyweight. Roy actually gained the pounds and was still successful.
I love Bob, but, all time? Bob's just repetition of a thing that happened in boxing repeatedly and consistently from the ancient period through bare knuckle period. Bob is literally one of many, in All Time boxing. Roy is alone, the only man. You can go back 3k years you will not find another MW champion who became HW champion while weighing in at HW instead of weighing their normal MW weight.
Back to Floyd, the first man to show no reliance on any aspect of boxing. He used plenty but relied on nothing.
SRR lost because he was reliant
SRL lost because he was reliant
Armstrong lost because he was reliant
Floyd never lost because Floyd could and did adapt to any situation. Floyd can box or punch or mix between them. Floyd has chin and head movement. Floyd can dance and plant. Traps? He'll set you up while you think you are setting him up.
What beats Floyd? I dunno, nor do you. That would be conjecture, and in this case, wrong to do. It's denial of the one thing Floyd actually relied on; being plastic. Being unreliant is what he relied on his entire career. Take away Wilder's right hand and what have you got? Take away Floyd's and he's still Floyd. Nonreliant. He proved it. Slow him down and make him old? Still Floyd, still beating young men on their rise up to be the next p4p king. Unlike SRR where taking away his power would be difficult but if you could it'd be effective, taking away Floyd's power is ineffective and does little to change the course of his fights. Now he just doesn't hit you as hard, but, he's still hitting you, and often. Damn hard nut to crack which is why it never happened.
The most prepared fighter of all time, by a ****load.
Dig this, you want to know how I know Floyd would beat SRR if they shared a time? SRR is willing to show up drunk, Floyd isn't. Most prepared fighter of all time. Not just repeating an award that has happened a bunch of times, a real all time record for the gods. Floyd would definitely get Sugar on the bottle.
If you like Sugars or Henry, that's cool, this isn't a hit piece, I wouldn't ever attack you for ranking them so highly or argue in Floyd's favor, but for me, Floyd and honestly it isn't even that hard for me to say that.
Do you really think Wlad's the only man to reign a decade over a ****show? He's just repetition promoted like it isn't.
Y'all really believe Manny covered the most weight? Children used to box.
Marciano's the only unbeaten HW champion, except for the ten others that existed before him.
Floyd Mayweather, most prepared fighter to ever fight, alone, singular, there is only him.
You can take your Sugars and Armstrong and what nots and brag about their resume until the cows come home, you can brag about the weights they covered right there with their resume too. It don't really mean that much in All Time to me.
Resume is something that will fade, no one will care in a hundred years, no one will care in a thousand for damn sure. None of you give any ****s about Klietomachos at all.
Weight? What does Pythagoras of Samos mean to you? How about Tommy Ryan? Hmm....is it exclusively a GOAT marker for modern boxing? Not Queensberry, Tommy did that, but modern? from like the 30s-now? Those are the only guys whose names rest against high rank opposition at multiple weight classes or actual weights?
What I'm trying to say is SRR, SRL, Armstrong, you know, you usual GOAT names, did absolutely nothing original in the sport as a whole but rather something special and original in their era of sport. When times change, so will the fans' interpretation of these men AND their importance to the sport.
Bob Fitzsimmons is the first MW to HW except that was actually really normal in bare knuckle and Bob was a transition figure....so....was it really anything but timing?
Roy Jones Jr is the first, and the only man to weigh at MW, go up to HW and weigh at HW, and be champion. Bob weighed his middleweight weight at heavyweight. Roy actually gained the pounds and was still successful.
I love Bob, but, all time? Bob's just repetition of a thing that happened in boxing repeatedly and consistently from the ancient period through bare knuckle period. Bob is literally one of many, in All Time boxing. Roy is alone, the only man. You can go back 3k years you will not find another MW champion who became HW champion while weighing in at HW instead of weighing their normal MW weight.
Back to Floyd, the first man to show no reliance on any aspect of boxing. He used plenty but relied on nothing.
SRR lost because he was reliant
SRL lost because he was reliant
Armstrong lost because he was reliant
Floyd never lost because Floyd could and did adapt to any situation. Floyd can box or punch or mix between them. Floyd has chin and head movement. Floyd can dance and plant. Traps? He'll set you up while you think you are setting him up.
What beats Floyd? I dunno, nor do you. That would be conjecture, and in this case, wrong to do. It's denial of the one thing Floyd actually relied on; being plastic. Being unreliant is what he relied on his entire career. Take away Wilder's right hand and what have you got? Take away Floyd's and he's still Floyd. Nonreliant. He proved it. Slow him down and make him old? Still Floyd, still beating young men on their rise up to be the next p4p king. Unlike SRR where taking away his power would be difficult but if you could it'd be effective, taking away Floyd's power is ineffective and does little to change the course of his fights. Now he just doesn't hit you as hard, but, he's still hitting you, and often. Damn hard nut to crack which is why it never happened.
The most prepared fighter of all time, by a ****load.
Dig this, you want to know how I know Floyd would beat SRR if they shared a time? SRR is willing to show up drunk, Floyd isn't. Most prepared fighter of all time. Not just repeating an award that has happened a bunch of times, a real all time record for the gods. Floyd would definitely get Sugar on the bottle.
If you like Sugars or Henry, that's cool, this isn't a hit piece, I wouldn't ever attack you for ranking them so highly or argue in Floyd's favor, but for me, Floyd and honestly it isn't even that hard for me to say that.
Do you really think Wlad's the only man to reign a decade over a ****show? He's just repetition promoted like it isn't.
Y'all really believe Manny covered the most weight? Children used to box.
Marciano's the only unbeaten HW champion, except for the ten others that existed before him.
Floyd Mayweather, most prepared fighter to ever fight, alone, singular, there is only him.
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