Did anyone ever dominate Juan Manuel Marquez like Floyd did?

[ShoulderRoll]

I don’t disagree the performance was impressive. But I don’t think it’s a foregone conclusion that, had the sizes been level, Floyd would’ve been so dominant.

I would give more credence to the "sizes being level" making a difference if anyone could explain how that would have changed the fight.

But so far no one really has been able to.

The consensus seems to be that Floyd's weight was not even a factor.

[CubanGuyNYC]

I would give more credence to the "sizes being level" making a difference if anyone could explain how that would have changed the fight.

But so far no one really has been able to.

The consensus seems to be that Floyd's weight was not even a factor.

Well, for starters, when you know your opponent can’t hurt you, you simply fight differently. It’s not just a physical advantage, but also a psychological advantage. By the same token, the opponent feels the disadvantage on his end.

[ShoulderRoll]

Well, for starters, when you know your opponent can’t hurt you, you simply fight differently. It’s not just a physical advantage, but also a psychological advantage. By the same token, the opponent feels the disadvantage on his end.

Ok. So hypothetically maybe Floyd was willing to take more shots in order to get off punches of his own, since he knew Marquez couldn't hurt him?

But that's not what happened at all. His defense was completely on point and he made Marquez miss almost everything.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Ok. So hypotheticallg maybe Floyd was willing to take more shots in order to get off punches of his own, since he knew Marquez couldn't hurt him?

But that's not what happened at all. His defense was completely on point and he made Marquez miss almost everything.

You’re right, and that’s why I still consider Floyd’s dominance impressive. But that doesn’t mean the size advantage didn’t play a role. Mayweather was willing to forfeit 600k to keep his weight. Was that merely because he wanted to take it easy on his body, his training? I dunno, man.

[ShoulderRoll]

You’re right, and that’s why I still consider Floyd’s dominance impressive. But that doesn’t mean the size advantage didn’t play a role. Mayweather was willing to forfeit 600k to keep his weight. Was that merely because he wanted to take it easy on his body, his training? I dunno, man.

No one can tell me how exactly the weight advantage played a role, though.

That says a lot IMO.

[GrandpaBernard]

Well, for starters, when you know your opponent can’t hurt you, you simply fight differently. It’s not just a physical advantage, but also a psychological advantage. By the same token, the opponent feels the disadvantage on his end.

Floyd style is to box like anyone can hurt him

[Roadblock]

You’re right, and that’s why I still consider Floyd’s dominance impressive. But that doesn’t mean the size advantage didn’t play a role. Mayweather was willing to forfeit 600k to keep his weight. Was that merely because he wanted to take it easy on his body, his training? I dunno, man.

He hadnt fought in nearly 2 yrs thats why the last couple of pound didnt come off, by the time Floyd would have figured how he wasnt dropping that last wee bit he would have had to boil it off, he didnt wanna do that.

Its not like Floyd blew the weight, his body did what it had done for years drop to 146.

As for the fight weight made no difference because of 2 things , nobody was drained , and the fight was not physical at all it was pure boxing at range, weight is only an advantage if one is weakened or it is a very physical fight.

Guys in here talk weight yet dont understand how it works in a fighter.

[4truth]

JMM and I both believe weight was a major factor.

To paraphrase Lomachenko, it wasn’t a big win for Floyd, JMM was not in his weight class.

[Roadblock]

JMM and I both believe weight was a major factor.

To paraphrase Lomachenko, it wasn’t a big win for Floyd, JMM was not in his weight class.

So 2lb takes away the best counter puncher in boxing being totally schooled.

Tell me how 2lb weight mattered in this fight, this will be good ?

[4truth]

So 2lb takes away the best counter puncher in boxing being totally schooled.

Tell me how 2lb weight mattered in this fight, this will be good ?

2 pounds?? You can’t be that gullible.