Why do people rate Mayweather higher than Pac when he never challenge himself at 160?

[GrandpaBernard]

Marquez was not prime by fight number 2...he was 34...he was prime in the first fight that was a draw

Bradley was an elite fighter....

Barrera was not prime considering he was 20 with 60 fights in, many wars..Mckinney, Morales, Junior Jones ..he was a smart vet that altered his style to prolong his career.......prime barrera was 2001 and earlier....he had 2 wars with Morales before fighting pac and no fighter is the same taking that kind of punishment

Cotto should have been in his prime as far as his age and amount of fights go but we dont really know what that margarito fight took out of him....didnt look impressive prior to fighting manny with wholly average Clottey.....we can say he was prime for the sake of convo



Manny simply didnt beat a lot of prime guys that were at the top of their division


even when he beat morales, morales lost to raheem prior to manny winning their 2nd fight

yep manny often fought guys when they were vulnerable. Sometimes, manny did it on purpose.

Clearest example being when manny waited Shane out

Other times manny’s good timing was good fortune

But luck couldn’t save manny when Floyd schooled him

[BoxingTrav]

Anyone arguing or debating or even talking with this man needs to get checked out.

The guy clearly has a mental disability...move along

I learned this lesson recently.

[hugh grant]

yep manny often fought guys when they were vulnerable. Sometimes, manny did it on purpose.

Clearest example being when manny waited Shane out

Other times manny’s good timing was good fortune

But luck couldn’t save manny when Floyd schooled him

The irony of your post floyd is the known cherry picker, not pac.
You still talking about Pac not fighting ssm? Why did ssm have to be pac opponent before floyds! You better believe Pac wasn't fighting bums as an alternative to ssm.
Pac s still fighting in his 40s so how can you still be holding some kind of grudge and won't let it go. Look how Pac schooled him when they did fight?
Floyd fighting Pac was good timing and he waited pac out. Pac wasn't far removed from ko loss and was still gun shy when Floyd fought pac.

[therealpugilist]

yep manny often fought guys when they were vulnerable. Sometimes, manny did it on purpose.

Clearest example being when manny waited Shane out

Other times manny’s good timing was good fortune

But luck couldn’t save manny when Floyd schooled him

but floyd waited until he got old....the fire was gone


mayweather 2 years older doe lol

[therealpugilist]

The irony of your post floyd is the known cherry picker, not pac.
You still talking about Pac not fighting ssm? Why did ssm have to be pac opponent before floyds! You better believe Pac wasn't fighting bums as an alternative to ssm.
Pac s still fighting in his 40s so how can you still be holding some kind of grudge and won't let it go. Look how Pac schooled him when they did fight?
Floyd fighting Pac was good timing and he waited pac out. Pac wasn't far removed from ko loss and was still gun shy when Floyd fought pac.

damn cherry picker.....picked on Genaro hernandez.....floyd was 21 and had 17 pro fights....kill that lame narrative....


yea he cherry picked castillo....the best lightweight in the world before he got there and after he moved up


cherry picked Corrales....who was undefeated and a p4p entrant



........pathetic bro....simply embarassing.....cherry picked de la hoya....oh damn DLH picked the division, ring size, gloves size brand and all.....


floyd didnt call no shots and was not a cash cow until already building a hall of fame career from 1996-2007..5 titles in 5 divisions....you guys really dont know **** about boxing

[hugh grant]

Marquez was not prime by fight number 2...he was 34...he was prime in the first fight that was a draw

Bradley was an elite fighter....

Barrera was not prime considering he was 29 with 60 fights in, many wars..Mckinney, Morales, Junior Jones ..he was a smart vet that altered his style to prolong his career.......prime barrera was 2001 and earlier....he had 2 wars with Morales before fighting pac and no fighter is the same taking that kind of punishment

Cotto should have been in his prime as far as his age and amount of fights go but we dont really know what that margarito fight took out of him....didnt look impressive prior to fighting manny with wholly average Clottey.....we can say he was prime for the sake of convo



Manny simply didnt beat a lot of prime guys that were at the top of their division

So much scrap in this post.
So Floyd fought a past prime, bloated jmm coming off losses to pac? Pac s used good.

So barrera wasnt prime after coming off 8 streak win.? You discredit Pac for fighting people coming off losses and long unbeaten runs also? Wars might shorten your career but they don't make you past prime at 29, they make you battle tested and hardened and experienced, not green like nelo was.

How many wars had Pac had with his 70 fights when Floyd beat pac then? How many wars and losses did ssm, dlh have when Floyd beat them? Who cares ssm was coming off a decent win, you don't care much of barrera 8 streak win!

So how many beatings did cott o have by time Floyd got cotto?
All Floyd s biggest name wins weren't prime, castillo, Corrales are just small fish, footnotes in.boxing history.The type of guys Pac wouldve downed in 5 rounds.

You need to stop posting

[Chuckguy]

......welp...

That’s it what I posted you fawk tard but like a typical ***** always skewing the facts to suit their agendas

[therealpugilist]

That’s it what I posted you fawk tard but like a typical ***** always skewing the facts to suit their agendas

im lost i agreed with you lol

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Marquez was not prime by fight number 2...he was 34...he was prime in the first fight that was a draw

Bradley was an elite fighter....

Barrera was not prime considering he was 29 with 60 fights in, many wars..Mckinney, Morales, Junior Jones ..he was a smart vet that altered his style to prolong his career.......prime barrera was 2001 and earlier....he had 2 wars with Morales before fighting pac and no fighter is the same taking that kind of punishment

Cotto should have been in his prime as far as his age and amount of fights go but we dont really know what that margarito fight took out of him....didnt look impressive prior to fighting manny with wholly average Clottey.....we can say he was prime for the sake of convo



Manny simply didnt beat a lot of prime guys that were at the top of their division


even when he beat morales, morales lost to raheem prior to manny winning their 2nd fight

Marquez was definitely in the prime of his career. His 135 run following that loss was arguably the best run of his career. Going off that logic B-Hop was not in his prime against Tito...

Barrera was unquestionably in his prime. He was the #1 guy at 126 and was coming off a run of wins against Hamed, Morales, Tapia, Kelley.

Cotto was also in his prime, as was Bradley. The Margarito fight clearly didn’t affect him that much he went on to fight at the top level for another decade.

Clottey was a good fighter, no shame in being competitive with him. Very underrated IMO.

[therealpugilist]

Marquez was definitely in the prime of his career. His 135 run following that loss was arguably the best run of his career. Going off that logic B-Hop was not in his prime against Tito...

Barrera was unquestionably in his prime. He was the #1 guy at 126 and was coming off a run of wins against Hamed, Morales, Tapia, Kelley.

Cotto was also in his prime, as was Bradley. The Margarito fight clearly didn’t affect him that much he went on to fight at the top level for another decade.

Clottey was a good fighter, no shame in being competitive with him. Very underrated IMO.

dude...marquez is not a middleweight....


his best years were at featherweight in the early to mid 2000s.....not as a lightweight in his mid 30s....when he was younger he had faster feet and was harder to hit than at 135


Kelly was past prime and so was tapia who was a true bantamweight trying to make money


to be honest i dont think you know when a fighters prime is


Barrera was a great fighter but was not primed



Hell, Hopkins wasnt prime....what 36 year old is in their prime....Hopkins was at his best and most brutal in the 90s when he was fighing guys like echols....trinidad was simply his biggest win.....hopkins prime was from like 95-99 not his mid friggin 30s bro go watch the fights....he used skills to prolong his career