Why do people rate Mayweather higher than Pac when he never challenge himself at 160?

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  • hugh grant
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    #81
    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
    Dumb comparison because Floyd and manny share many common opponents but Floyd beat the fresher versions. what manny has that Floyd doesn’t are Morales and Marco

    Floyd giving manny a boxing lesson tips it putting Floyd comfortably ahead
    No, don't think so. Was cotto fresher when floyd beat cotto? Does Floyd have more than 1 win over jmm other than cheated scales win over jmm, when Pac has 3 if not scorecard error?

    Cotto said Pac beats floyd in his prime, dlh said same thing and jmm said Pac best of era, and Hatton said Floyd needed ref help to beat him, so that just leaves ssm?
    Only in your dreams is Floyd rated higher. Pac makes common opponents look more worn, whilst Floyd makes maidana types look elite. Floyd made Connor McGregor look like hed done boxing his whole life, whereas Pac would likely have downed McGregor in 2 rounds, which you would then credit Floyd for beating fresher version of mcgregor?
    Last edited by hugh grant; 04-29-2020, 04:22 PM.

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      #82
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      No, don't think so. Was cotto fresher when floyd beat cotto? Does Floyd have more than 1 win over jmm other than cheated scales win over jmm, when Pac has 3 if not scorecard error?

      Cotto said Pac beats floyd in his prime, dlh said same thing and jmm said Pac best of era, and Hatton said Floyd needed ref help to beat him, so that just leaves ssm?
      Only in your dreams is Floyd rated higher. Pac makes common opponents look more worn, whilst Floyd makes maidana types look elite. Floyd made Connor McGregor look like hed done boxing his whole life, whereas Pac would likely have downed McGregor in 2 rounds, which you would then credit Floyd for beating fresher version of mcgregor?
      you're easy work

      Floyd beat the better Oscar, Hatton, and Mosley.

      3 out of 5 that's the majority of them.

      The statement stands that Floyd beat fresher versions of their common opponents.

      Plus manny got his azz handed to him by Marquez multiple times. manny wasn't ever able to do what Floyd did to Marquez even with 4 tries.

      Then Floyd gives manny a boxing lesson to cap it all off.

      Since you value manny so much his own teammate freddie praised Floyd as best of the generation

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        #83
        floyd needed to move up and fight at 175 if he wanted to be as great as pac but he refused. coward

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          #84
          Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
          Dumb comparison because Floyd and manny share many common opponents but Floyd beat the fresher versions. what manny has that Floyd doesn’t are Morales and Marco

          Floyd giving manny a boxing lesson tips it putting Floyd comfortably ahead
          you do realize that pac landed the much better punches in that fight right? not sure how you can give someone a lesson when you are getting your head rocked around constantly and barely only landing grazing punches yourself but denial is a strong thing. even if you thought floyd won doesnt pac losing to jeff horn shortly after kinda prove its not that great of a win? is calzaghe comfortably ahead of hopkins since he "won" heads up. beating a guy out of his prime then claiming you were always better has to be the saddest thing. like i think pac beat floyd but is it really some amazing win? no not really he was way past it

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            #85
            Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
            you're easy work

            Floyd beat the better Oscar, Hatton, and Mosley.

            3 out of 5 that's the majority of them.

            The statement stands that Floyd beat fresher versions of their common opponents.

            Plus manny got his azz handed to him by Marquez multiple times. manny wasn't ever able to do what Floyd did to Marquez even with 4 tries.

            Then Floyd gives manny a boxing lesson to cap it all off.

            Since you value manny so much his own teammate freddie praised Floyd as best of the generation
            where is the footage of this though? are you just saying something over and over in the hopes that its true? like we have the footage. floyd did very little in that fight. pac landed the better punches but they gave it to floyd. thats hardly a lesson at all. i would kind of be embarrassed actually to be touting that as some great win based on the way floyd fought. its like calzaghe fans when he beat hopkins. oh my god he beat the crap outta him...where? when? the footage i have shows something completely different. do they make fights that are tailored to fan bases or something? like if you are a calzaghe fan it shows him actually landing punches. i must be a hopkins fan then cause all the punches on my tape miss or almost all of them. can someone share their floyd-pac tape with me and ditto for calzaghe-hopkins, ward-kovaelv etc...

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              #86
              Originally posted by GrandpaBernard

              Floyd beat the better Oscar, Hatton, and Mosley.

              .

              The statement stands that Floyd beat fresher versions of their common opponents.

              Plus manny got his azz handed to him by Marquez multiple times. manny wasn't ever able to do what Floyd did to Marquez even with 4 tries.

              Then Floyd gives manny a boxing lesson to cap it all off.

              Since you value manny so much his own teammate freddie praised Floyd as best of the generation
              It's only your opinion floyd best fresher dlh, hatton, ssm. In more peoples opinions people value pacs wins more. A former flyweight beating all common opponents more dominant and all common opponentst said pac was better. I've not been in ring with them both so I'll take their word for it.

              Unbiased people will understand floyd wouldn't stop any version of hatton in 2 rounds, or any version of dlh in 7 rounds like pac did.. There's no way in earth a floyd fanboy is going to corrupt peoples minds into thinking floyd win over hatton and dlh and cotto is better than pac s wins!
              Plus pac should have 3 wins over jmm if not scorecard error. 3 wins makes you greater than 1 win in everyone's eyes. There no way a floyd fan is going to make people see differently

              Floyd cheated scale win doesn't impress anyone, including floyd fans but floyd hasn't given his fans much to boast about so no choice but to mention jmm. Great wins is short on ground for floyd. Pac was more worn than floyd when floyd supposedly best pac

              If Freddy said pac was best then you'd say he was bias. There's no point in floyd senior saying floyd best of era because people would say he's your son of course you will say that. We know exactly what senior thinks when he didn't want floyd to face prime pac. He was scared for him
              Last edited by hugh grant; 04-29-2020, 07:27 PM.

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                #87
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                No, don't think so. Was cotto fresher when floyd beat cotto? Does Floyd have more than 1 win over jmm other than cheated scales win over jmm, when Pac has 3 if not scorecard error?

                Cotto said Pac beats floyd in his prime, dlh said same thing and jmm said Pac best of era, and Hatton said Floyd needed ref help to beat him, so that just leaves ssm?
                Only in your dreams is Floyd rated higher. Pac makes common opponents look more worn, whilst Floyd makes maidana types look elite. Floyd made Connor McGregor look like hed done boxing his whole life, whereas Pac would likely have downed McGregor in 2 rounds, which you would then credit Floyd for beating fresher version of mcgregor?
                Youre so full of BS , Cotto said Floyd was the best he fought.

                Oscar said Floyd is the best and off course his usual flip flopping.

                Jmm said Floyd is the best, Hatton said Floyd is the best and they all picked Mayweather to beat Manny before their fight.

                You make no sense with half the BS you write, its like you forgot what happened yesterday so you just make it up as you go along.

                When you going to name Mannys best wins , No CWs, No opponents coming of major loses close to fighting Manny.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Roadblock
                  Youre so full of BS , Cotto said Floyd was the best he fought.

                  Oscar said Floyd is the best and off course his usual flip flopping.

                  Jmm said Floyd is the best, Hatton said Floyd is the best and they all picked Mayweather to beat Manny before their fight.

                  Cotto said pac would best floyd in pacs prime and floyd ducked pac as he knew pac would ko him. Cottos exact words. Cotto did say floyd was best overall but doesn't mean he thinks floyd has best resume or wins or is greater
                  Dlh said pac was best he fought.
                  Jmm said pac was best of era.
                  Shouldn't matter what hatton says we can see with own eyes what happened.
                  They picked floyd to win, as pac is past prime.
                  Don't make floyd greater. None of them say Floyd is greater
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 04-30-2020, 09:18 AM.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    Swear on your mother's life what your saying is true and your not being economical with truth.
                    Cotto said pac would best floyd in pacs prime and floyd ducked pac as he knew pac would no him. Cotton exact words.
                    Dlh said pac was best he fought.
                    Jmm said pac was best of era.
                    Shouldn't matter what hatton says we can see with own eyes what happened.
                    They picked floyd to win, as pac is past prime.
                    Don't make floyd greater
                    Youre full of BS .





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                      #90
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      It's only your opinion floyd best fresher dlh, hatton, ssm. In more peoples opinions people value pacs wins more.
                      This guy

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