Why do people rate Mayweather higher than Pac when he never challenge himself at 160?

[PAC-BOY]

Another idiot proven wrong, you fools can never back up your mouth.

damn youre an idiot

[hugh grant]

You were proven wrong stop crying a river, no second prizes for losers.

Nobody knows what your crying about still. Floyd beat pac didn't he so why you so insecure still about pac s pe ers saying pac s greater than floyd or would beat him in pac s prime? Why does jmm saying pac s best of era so hurtful to you?

That shouldn't hurt you. Pac winning titles in 8 divisions and beating thurman at 41, who Floyd ducked at 36 should hurt you more. Floyd ducking rematches with nel o and pac should bother you more and dodging young lions like Crawford and spence.

Boxing historians thinking Pac having 3 wins over jmm if not scorecard error is more desirable than one Floyd cheated scales win should bother you more, and Pac destroying Hatton in 2 rounds, and dlh in 7 rounds and cott o in 11 rounds, should make you feel uneasy.
It don't matter jmm says pacs best of era, or that cott o and dlh say Pac beats floyd in Pac s prime. What does it matter dlh said Pac is best overall? It's only words.
What pacs did, over what Floyds did should worry you, not how great pace peers think he is

[SUBZER0ED]

He could have gotten to Martinez before cotto did and became the lineal mw champion...that would have put a stamp on his legacy.

Floyd was too small to fight @ MW.

[therealpugilist]

I cannot for the life of me understand why people actually rate Floyd higher than Pacquiao when he did not even attempt to fight at 160. Meanwhile Pacquiao went through eight divisions.

He should have challenged himself by moving to 160.

.......meanwhile Pacquaio was a teenager suffering from poverty and was basically fighting to live and eat....of course hit weight would be low...when he finally got money coming in....gets ktfo at 112......comes back and skips 115 and 118 altogether and campaignes at 122....he wasnt chasing greatness he outgrew the weights and had better living conditions than his teen years


you do realize only one fighter in history who started below 135 ever won a title 160.....roberto duran and oscar de la hoya( wbo and most thought he lost)


floyd turned pro at 130 and was at 125 in the olympics



what other former lightweights do you think should have "challenged themselves at 160"

[UNBANNED]

Nobody knows what your crying about still. Floyd beat pac didn't he so why you so insecure still about pac s pe ers saying pac s greater than floyd or would beat him in pac s prime? Why does jmm saying pac s best of era so hurtful to you?

That shouldn't hurt you. Pac winning titles in 8 divisions and beating thurman at 41, who Floyd ducked at 36 should hurt you more. Floyd ducking rematches with nel o and pac should bother you more and dodging young lions like Crawford and spence.

Boxing historians thinking Pac having 3 wins over jmm if not scorecard error is more desirable than one Floyd cheated scales win should bother you more, and Pac destroying Hatton in 2 rounds, and dlh in 7 rounds and cott o in 11 rounds, should make you feel uneasy.
It don't matter jmm says pacs best of era, or that cott o and dlh say Pac beats floyd in Pac s prime. What does it matter dlh said Pac is best overall? It's only words.
What pacs did, over what Floyds did should worry you, not how great pace peers think he is

Anyone arguing or debating or even talking with this man needs to get checked out.

The guy clearly has a mental disability...move along

[therealpugilist]

Sorry bro your not sounding reasonable right now. Pac started boxing at 15 and he was 100 lbs soaking wet eating out of dumpsters. As soon as the money started rolling in he started settling into a more natural weight. Just because Pac had those circumstances to deal with and he was able to pick up trinkets along the way dosnt mean we should expect everyone to have the same goals or try to outdo each other in every single category. We have be realistic 154 was probably the ceiling for both of these midgets

same thing i said

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[therealpugilist]

- Wins against elite fighters in their prime

- Only 8 weight champ in history.

- Only fighter to hold a world title in 4 different decades.

- 5 division lineal champion

You can make a reasonable argument for both IMO. Personally I have Floyd slightly higher but I can understand if somebody has Manny higher than Floyd.

what elites were in their prime or not coming off a terrible beating?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

what elites were in their prime or not coming off a terrible beating?

Marquez, Barrera, Cotto, Bradley.

[therealpugilist]

Marquez, Barrera, Cotto, Bradley.

Marquez was not prime by fight number 2...he was 34...he was prime in the first fight that was a draw

Bradley was an elite fighter....

Barrera was not prime considering he was 29 with 60 fights in, many wars..Mckinney, Morales, Junior Jones ..he was a smart vet that altered his style to prolong his career.......prime barrera was 2001 and earlier....he had 2 wars with Morales before fighting pac and no fighter is the same taking that kind of punishment

Cotto should have been in his prime as far as his age and amount of fights go but we dont really know what that margarito fight took out of him....didnt look impressive prior to fighting manny with wholly average Clottey.....we can say he was prime for the sake of convo



Manny simply didnt beat a lot of prime guys that were at the top of their division


even when he beat morales, morales lost to raheem prior to manny winning their 2nd fight

[therealpugilist]

It’s because like it or not floyd dominated his fights and was never ktfo like pac ala Marquez

......welp...