Does Manny Pacquiao have a claim to be a Top 3 ATG?

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  • therealpugilist
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    #111
    Originally posted by Michael1437
    Understandable, but give the guy credit for coming from 108 to 150, that's pretty incredible in itself.
    its incredible but not groundbreaking plus he was a malnourished teenager when he turned pro


    Sam langforde was 150 lbs knocking out heavyweights standing over 6' and 200 lbs......


    Manny is a legend but top 3 all time just shows a preference for him or biase....he wont even be remembered as the best of his own era

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      #112
      Originally posted by Michael1437
      Understandable, but give the guy credit for coming from 108 to 150, that's pretty incredible in itself.
      No, I don’t give him credit for going to 150 because it was only for 1 fight against a disgraced cheater and it came during a time when many think that pacquiao was dirty himself.

      The truth is pacquiao’s run above jr welter has just been ok at best. His most impressive win above 140 is who? Drained and passed it DLH? Catch weighted cotto? Mosley? Thurman? In my opinion his wins at 47 only balance out the Ls he took to Bradley, Horn, Marquez and Floyd. The idea that dude is a top 3 fighter of all tome is one of the most outrageous unashamed d-riding takes ive ever heard.

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        #113
        Originally posted by Goldie
        No, I don’t give him credit for going to 150 because it was only for 1 fight against a disgraced cheater and it came during a time when many think that pacquiao was dirty himself.

        The truth is pacquiao’s run above jr welter has just been ok at best. His most impressive win above 140 is who? Drained and passed it DLH? Catch weighted cotto? Mosley? Thurman? In my opinion his wins at 47 only balance out the Ls he took to Bradley, Horn, Marquez and Floyd. The idea that dude is a top 3 fighter of all tome is one of the most outrageous unashamed d-riding takes ive ever heard.
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        • Michael1437
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          #114
          Originally posted by therealpugilist
          its incredible but not groundbreaking plus he was a malnourished teenager when he turned pro


          Sam langforde was 150 lbs knocking out heavyweights standing over 6' and 200 lbs......


          Manny is a legend but top 3 all time just shows a preference for him or biase....he wont even be remembered as the best of his own era
          That was my point, was that it was incredible to see and I know others have done it just hasn't happened in a while.

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          • Michael1437
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            #115
            Originally posted by Goldie
            No, I don’t give him credit for going to 150 because it was only for 1 fight against a disgraced cheater and it came during a time when many think that pacquiao was dirty himself.

            The truth is pacquiao’s run above jr welter has just been ok at best. His most impressive win above 140 is who? Drained and passed it DLH? Catch weighted cotto? Mosley? Thurman? In my opinion his wins at 47 only balance out the Ls he took to Bradley, Horn, Marquez and Floyd. The idea that dude is a top 3 fighter of all tome is one of the most outrageous unashamed d-riding takes ive ever heard.
            I never said he was top 3 ATG, I just said what he has accomplished is a lot, I know you say that he beat a past his prime DLH and Cotto and Mosley and Thurman, but let's not forget Pac's best weight was definitely not WW, so the fact that he's able to fight these fighters and I would argue that Thurman is a good WW is crazy.

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              #116
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules
              - -Manny took losses because he dared to be great in spite of the handicap of being a Filipino Congressman this past decade.

              Made crack felon family Floyd choke on their PED allegations with his 51-0 artificially enhanced record the damning evidence to withstand the test of time.

              Thanks for making rebuttal so easy.
              LOL.

              Which Pacquaio loss did he sustain because he dared to be great?

              Morales?? Mayweather??

              Which other one. lol

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                #117
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                - -Why TUE 51-0 not set all the Ring P4P records like Manny?

                Manny even with more PPVs and away fights, divisions, and...I could go on but it's an embarrassment for U crack family felon women beaters...
                Do you really want me to embarrass you with Payperview numbers. I've let you slide a couple times. I'm inclined to allow it because I think you're just a troll

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Michael1437
                  I never said he was top 3 ATG, I just said what he has accomplished is a lot, I know you say that he beat a past his prime DLH and Cotto and Mosley and Thurman, but let's not forget Pac's best weight was definitely not WW, so the fact that he's able to fight these fighters and I would argue that Thurman is a good WW is crazy.
                  Well if you agree that it’s ridiculous to call him a top 3 atg then you should be on our side calling the trolls/fanboys out because that way we can all give pacquiao his appreciation as a great fighter who is clearly 1 of the best of his generation. I agree, the Thurman win was impressive. I’m not a pacquiao hater at all.

                  People don’t realize how much the stan warriors muck up sports talk discussion. The trolls make every athlete a polarizing figure by playing these stan war games.

                  Pacquiao is a great fighter who’s still doing his thing and carving out a great legacy. He doesn’t need the over the top overhyping.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Michael1437
                    That was my point, was that it was incredible to see and I know others have done it just hasn't happened in a while.
                    it was impressive, now imagine canelo or Jermell Charlo knocking out someone like derrick chisora, parker even the smaller heavies


                    we will never see anything close to that ever again.....thats mind boggling

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by BoxingTrav
                      Do you really want me to embarrass you with Payperview numbers. I've let you slide a couple times. I'm inclined to allow it because I think you're just a troll
                      - -U one of SissyBoyFloyd Sissyboys?

                      Manny a PPV fighter before TUE 51-0 whose first PPV was taking short $ against Gatti.

                      U preschool know U loose with overflowing BigBoy Barney trainers?

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