Should fighters take the blame for decisions their promoters make?

[Ray*]

that fight will never happen

When you duck a fight they wouldn't happen. So again you are right. When a boxer makes a decision to duck a fight then they would, again you are right. 100M and still didn't want the smoke proves you are right about how a boxer makes that decision, just like you i was disappointed with Wilder's ducking and the way he cherrypicked Fury...That has gone wrong so far, so we are all happy..

[aboutfkntime]

When you duck a fight they wouldn't happen. So again you are right. When a boxer makes a decision to duck a fight then they would, again you are right. 100M and still didn't want the smoke proves you are right about how a boxer makes that decision, just like you i was disappointed with Wilder's ducking and the way he cherrypicked Fury...That has gone wrong so far, so we are all happy..

Chicken-Josh already proved he aint about that life

the guy who ducked Wilder THREE times in 2018, and then got stretched out by a short fat nobody... will not get in there with Tyson Fury

Fast Eddie will protect AJ from Fury... like he protected AJ from Wilder

[Ray*]

will not get in there with Tyson Fury

I doubt it too, I think he should have taken that 100m instead of ducking Whyte and Joshua. But you never know, he can land that right hand on Fury.

[aboutfkntime]

I doubt it too, I think he should have taken that 100m instead of ducking Whyte and Joshua. But you never know, he can land that right hand on Fury.

which is why he is fight him

AJ on the other hand lol

the thing is, they cannot fool the brits this time because of Fury

Fury will speak out... he will expose Joshua and Hearn when the talk starts

AJ will not have any fans left, once Tyson finishes with him

[Ray*]

which is why he is fight him

Nah, he tried to cherrypick him (Inactive fighter). It didn't work out this time .. Wilder duck a guaranteed money from a network. Am glad he lost, we cannot blame his promoter here.

So yeah you are right, this was on him, instead of fighting Whyte for more money he picked Ortiz (Inactive fighter), instead of fighting Whyte for more money he pick Breazeale (Inactive fighter), instead of fighting Joshua for more money, he announced TWO fights on the eve of Joshua getting KTFO by Ruiz, Why? Because he is a cherrypicker. This is why he never unified ONCE as a champion.

His record suggest it, those are facts. And the 100M he turned down for lesser paydays, lesser fights it meant he is a typical PBC ducker.

[aboutfkntime]

Nah, he tried to cherrypick him (Inactive fighter). It didn't work out this time .. Wilder duck a guaranteed money from a network. Am glad he lost, we cannot blame his promoter here.

So yeah you are right, this was on him, instead of fighting Whyte for more money he picked Ortiz (Inactive fighter), instead of fighting Whyte for more money he pick Breazeale (Inactive fighter), instead of fighting Joshua for more money, he announced TWO fights on the eve of Joshua getting KTFO by Ruiz, Why? Because he is a cherrypicker. This is why he never unified ONCE as a champion.

His record suggest it, those are facts. And the 100M he turned down for lesser paydays, lesser fights it meant he is a typical PBC ducker.

we saw why AJ ducked Wilder when he got stretched out like a used condom by Ruiz... the dude is brittle, he cannot beat Wilder or Fury

[Ray*]

we saw why AJ ducked Wilder when he got stretched out like a used condom by Ruiz... the dude is brittle, he cannot beat Wilder or Fury

If you are talking about Joshua beating Fury or Wilder then I would laugh in your face, I think he gets stopped by both. My prediction has always been that. That’s why I was shocked why Wilder ducked him. Especially that 100m offer from DAZN. He shouldn’t have cherrypicked Fury. He should have tried and unify those belts for once in his career. That’s why I agree with your assessment that if a boxer wants a fight then HE not the promoter can make it happen. Good analysis about Wilder.

[Finito2K]

If we be honest... Most of these fighters 99% will fight anyone. These guys are too prideful to back down from a fight no matter how dangerous.

Look at all the examples of fighters ready to fight but there promoter comes along and stall the fight or never make it at all.

Perfect example: I know for a fact Canelo would have fought GGG as soon as he got the 160lb strap. I know for a fact he was angry at the public reaction he was getting at the time while Oscar prolonged the fight.

Of course fighters have a say so to a certain extent but we know a promoter especially these big time guys like Arum, Oscar, Haymon will find a way to get their fighter on board.

So should these guys take the blame for obvious moves made by their promoter?

Damn right. They're the ones the promoter works for.

[aboutfkntime]

If you are talking about Joshua beating Fury or Wilder then I would laugh in your face, I think he gets stopped by both. My prediction has always been that. That’s why I was shocked why Wilder ducked him. Especially that 100m offer from DAZN. He shouldn’t have cherrypicked Fury. He should have tried and unify those belts for once in his career. That’s why I agree with your assessment that if a boxer wants a fight then HE not the promoter can make it happen. Good analysis about Wilder.

that is exactly what AJ and Hearn thought could happen

which is why they lied... lost their pen... and included ridiculous impediments in the contract that made no sense at all

none of that stuff is a representation of someone who wants to fight

Fury is clearly the best heavyweight, and Wilder is about to fight him again, even after sustaining that beating at his hands... so it is clearly obvious that Wilder will fight anyone

it has been clearly obvious that Wilder was ready, and willing, to step to anyone... since he first signed to fight Povetkin... any other conclusion is just fanboy garbage and excuse-making

[Ray*]

it has been clearly obvious that Wilder was ready, and willing, to step to anyone...

This is pure garbage, you cannot be "Ready and willing" when you turn down 100M to take less money for lesser threats, that's just fangirl talk..