Should fighters take the blame for decisions their promoters make?

[Citizen Koba]

Damn right. They're the ones the promoter works for.

Are they? That's an interesting debate in itself FWIW. Who pays who?

[Ray*]

I have neither called him "my King" nor made excuses for his loss.

I couldn't care less what you think about your "King". Fact is he went with lesser threat (Breazeale and Ortiz) when he was offered 100M to fight big threats.

Trying to use Fury's name to debunk this and leaving out Breazeale and Ortiz who he announced (Pre-Joshua getting KTFO) and fighting immediately shows you are here to defend your "king" from the ducking that me and Aboutfkntime agreed upon in regards to Wilder.

[Ray*]

it has been clearly obvious that Wilder was ready, and willing, to step to anyone...

You don't duck 100M if you are "Willing and ready" to step up for lower threats and lower payday (Breazeale and Ortiz)..

[aboutfkntime]

You don't duck 100M if you are "Willing and ready" to step up for lower threats and lower payday (Breazeale and Ortiz)..

don't get it bent

AJ did not offer Wilder $100m... DAZN did

and Wilder refused that offer because of... " dishonesty "

he was quite clear on that

AJ only offered Wilder $15m dude, that was his best offer

and he shat himself when Wilder accepted

$15m LMAO

how fkn dumb would you need to be to let Wilder get away when you had him on the hook for $15m... ?

dem boys were scurred, just like Lennox Lewis said

[aboutfkntime]

Are they? That's an interesting debate in itself FWIW. Who pays who?

it is not a debate you fkn muppet

trust you

[aboutfkntime]

Should fighters take the blame for decisions their promoters make?

it looks like the main question has been answered

bltches be making excuses for their timid hoes

" I fight who my promoters says doe " ... LMAO

Broner has bigger balls than Golovkin and AJ put together

#bltchesbeingbltches

[ShoulderRoll]

I couldn't care less what you think about your "King". Fact is he went with lesser threat (Breazeale and Ortiz) when he was offered 100M to fight big threats.

Trying to use Fury's name to debunk this and leaving out Breazeale and Ortiz who he announced (Pre-Joshua getting KTFO) and fighting immediately shows you are here to defend your "king" from the ducking that me and Aboutfkntime agreed upon in regards to Wilder.

I could care less what you and Aboutfkntime agree upon.

Fury isn't a lesser threat and any normal boxing observer knows it.
Wilder will have fought him 3 times by the end of the year most
likely yet you'll still be going on about how he has a lesser resume.

[Citizen Koba]

it is not a debate you fkn muppet

trust you

Go on then, who is working for who? You quite sure you even understand the terminology here? A managers job is working for the fighter, but the promoters responsibility is to make money for his promotion, he can only be seen as 'working for the fighter' inasmuch as their interests co-incide. Perhaps the closest analogy is describing the fighter as a contractor and the promoter as the client, although it's slightly more nuanced and there's a number of different ways in can work, especially for PPVs or when you get fighters effectively becoming their own one man promotions which is the way they tend to go (mainly for tax reasons I think) when they start getting decent purses or PPV income. The issue is confused further with the blurred roles between promoters and distributors and by fighters having contracts with - sometimes - both distruibutor and promoter, but in all cases the fighter is getting paid by one of them, and so, by definition, is kinda working 'for' them.

That FWIW is the key import of the Ali act by the way, the delination of legal responsibility... the drawing of a firewall between manager and promoter.

You might find some of this **** useful or at least a person who didn't think they already knew everything might find it useful...

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=416608

https://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/boxing-promoter.htm

https://www.quora.com/How-does-the-b...s-get-paid-etc


To be fair though I've noticed in the past you don't seem to have a very good grasp on this kinda **** do ya? Purses and budgets and whatnot? Y'Know, how this stuff actually works in the real world... like thinking SKY were gonna pay for GGG to fight who he wanted on HBO.

Probably comes from only bandwagoning the very few fighters in the world who can actually afford to pretty much click their fingers and get who the hell they want in the ring.

[Ray*]

don't get it bent

AJ did not offer Wilder $100m... DAZN did

and Wilder refused that offer because of... " dishonesty

This is all fan girl talk... “He refuse 100m because of dishonesty” ... Fact that we have both established was he ducked 100m because he had to fight tougher opponents. We have both established that.. no need to bring anyone else into it. So yes you are right “Only blame the fighter” we shouldn’t blame the promoter in this instance.

[Ray*]

I could care less what you and Aboutfkntime agree upon.

.

You obviously cared enough to jump in to the conversation to defend your “King”. If you couldn’t care less then you would have stayed out of mine and Anoutfkntime’s agreement than Wilder turned down 100m to fight lesser threats. 100m meant fighting tougher opponents, your “King” didn’t want to do that, he went the other way. So glad he got his destroyed for cherrypicking and ducking, 5 years as a champ and NOT one single unification in that time. So anyone defending this ducker should be ashamed.