Should fighters take the blame for decisions their promoters make?

[Ray*]

bingo

if they don't want the fight, they walk... but suddenly when they select a no-hoper rather than a better opponent the fans want, suddenly the promoter is at fault

Agreed, Like Wilder walking away from Dillian whyte and an offer of 5m dollars to fight Ortiz (Older, less active) for less (2.1m dollars). Like him walking away from 100m to fight Breazeale (Inactive, 3 fights in 4 years oppose Whyte 8/9 fights in the same period), Ortiz (Someone he already KO'ed, in a fight NO one asked for), Fury (Credit where credit is due because HE really wanted this fight, so you are right. He didn't want the Joshua fight so he bailed on that one.)

You are actually on to something, Wilder is a perfect example of what you are saying, he wanted the Fury fight so bad he went to Belfast even though he stands to make less money.

Even after Fury ducked the immediate rematch (Wilder wanted to run the back at that time rather than fight Joshua and unified all the belts). Wilder still waited for Fury even AFTER Fury ducked him.

So i guess you were thinking about Wilder when you came up with your point. And to be honest after looking at Wilder i do get what you were looking at.

[aboutfkntime]

Exactly, I agree with you. You finally get it. Turning down 100M fight deal for less via network, thus ducking the Joshua fight can be attributed to him.

and blatantly ducking Wilder THREE times in 2018... was a decision made by Joshua

like I said earlier... it was clearly obvious that you spastics were just making excuses for your hypejob fighter

[Ray*]

and blatantly ducking Wilder THREE times in 2018... was a decision made by Joshua

Nah just going by your theory Wilder ducked Whyte and Joshua by turning down those offers. I agree with your own theory. Now you are twisting your own words?

[aboutfkntime]

Nah just going by your theory Wilder ducked Whyte and Joshua by turning down those offers. I agree with your own theory. Now you are twisting your own words?

nope

when AJ demanded $50m, got offered $50m, but still refused to fight... he made a conscious decision to duck Wilder

when AJ lowballed Wilder $12m, and then quickly ran off to fight Povetkin, with NO counter-offer and NO negotiation... WHICH IS NOT HOW YOU MAKE A FIGHT... he made a conscious decision to duck Wilder

when AJ lowballed Wilder $15m ..... AND SHAT HIMSELF WHEN WILDER ACCEPTED ..... but then refused to supply a date and signature on the contract, and included ridiculous impediments that made no sense at all... B]WHICH IS NOT HOW YOU MAKE A FIGHT[/B]... he made a conscious decision to duck Wilder

Chicken-Josh blatantly ducked Wilder THREE times in 2018, so Wilder moved on... who gives a fcuk what happened after that

now Chicken-Josh will duck Fury

they will just lie to AJ's inbred fggt fanbase, and wait for Fury to retire

#notaboutthatlife

you are a little bltch for letting AJ hide behind his promoters skirt

[Ray*]

nope

Yep, you are going off course now. Let’s stick to your “If a fighter want a fight it gets made” quote, no need to get all feminine and triggered. Wilder had a 100m dollars offer, he ducked it for less, He has 5m offered to fight Whyte he ducked it for 2.1m to fight a lesser non active fighter in Ortiz.

So am agreeing with you that it’s the boxers fault, because Wilder is a perfect example of that. All that utter rubbish you typed isn’t even worth reading or replaying to.

You know the side of the streets excuses that Spence made? Yeah that another good example which you are referring to.

[aboutfkntime]

Yep, you are going off course now. Let’s stick to your “If a fighter want a fight it gets made” quote, no need to get all feminine and triggered. Wilder had a 100m dollars offer, he ducked it for less, He has 5m offered to fight Whyte he ducked it for 2.1m to fight a lesser non active fighter in Ortiz.

So am agreeing with you that it’s the boxers fault, because Wilder is a perfect example of that. All that utter rubbish you typed isn’t even worth reading or replaying to.

You know the side of the streets excuses that Spence made? Yeah that another good example which you are referring to.

a fighter - along with any other human being - is always responsible for his own decisions

AJ is living with the THREE decisions that he made in 2018, and Wilder is living with the decision that he made in 2019

[Ray*]

a fighter - along with any other human being - is always responsible for his own decisions

We know that Wilder turned down 100m, that was according to him and his team. So according to your theory he made that decision himself, thus we cannot blame his promoter or manager in that sense. So we can fully put the blame on him ducking Whyte and Joshua. So yes I agree with your sense of thought.

[aboutfkntime]

We know that Wilder turned down 100m, that was according to him and his team. So according to your theory he made that decision himself, thus we cannot blame his promoter or manager in that sense. So we can fully put the blame on him ducking Whyte and Joshua. So yes I agree with your sense of thought.

the decision to duck Wilder THREE times in 2018, was made by Anthony Joshua

Chicken-Josh was scurred of Wilder

now he is scurred of Fury

we already know that AJ will lie to his idiot fanbase, and wait for Fury to retire

[Ray*]

now he is scurred of Fury

I don’t really care what Fury had to do with this. But you are right again, he ducked 100m to try and cherrypicked Fury, so he made the decision to fight Fury, and made the decision to duck Whyte and Joshua. So yeah I don’t think we can blame a promoter for that, that was strictly on Wilder. Good debate

[aboutfkntime]

I don’t really care what Fury had to do with this. But you are right again, he ducked 100m to try and cherrypicked Fury, so he made the decision to fight Fury, and made the decision to duck Whyte and Joshua. So yeah I don’t think we can blame a promoter for that, that was strictly on Wilder. Good debate

that fight will never happen

AJ will **** Fury... just like he ducked Wilder

they will lie to their idiot fans, and wait for Fury to retire

his idiot fans, will believe those lies... despite the fact that brits like Lewis, Haye, Froch, Khan, Warren, etc... will all see whats up, and will all be calling AJ a duck... just like they did when he ducked Wilder