Rank the following Middleweights

[White Mandela]

Pretty much the case I'd make, there really ain't alot to choose between between GGG and Hopkins if you're just comparing their runs at 160 as I said earlier. Clearly Hopkins subsequent LHW run and longevity make him by far the greater fighter historically, but just taken as MWs there ain't a lot to choose. Likely Jacobs and possibly Derevyanchenko were as good or better than anyone on BHops MW resume, but then plenty of folk ain't convinced GGG deserved the nod in either case so it's swings and roundabouts.

Jacobs is literally a better MIDDLEWEIGHT than any of Hopkins opposition. Derevyanchenko too possibly.

I’m a huge Tito fan and I respect De La Hoya too but they weren’t middleweights.

Obviously agree about who had the better career. His 175 run is better than his 160 run in my opinion, the fact he was doing it in his 40’s makes it so much more impressive.

[NORMNEALON]

1 and 2 - monson and hagler which ever order you wanna put them in . It's a toss up imo , somedays I'll lean hagler , others monson.

3. Hopkins .
4. GGG.
5. Martinez.


I dont see how it could go any other way . Monzon vs hagler is one of my favorite MM . Imagine the fight we would have got If these guys were primed champions at the same time unifying ?? That MM is a toss up as much as ranking their reigns is . Two of the best middleweights of all time . Monzons reign was likely better . But head the head that's a tough one to call. I'd prolly give monzon a slight edge

[BoloShot]

He was a beast! Had such a presence in the ring. No middleweight in history beats Monzon.

H2H he is a true monster indeed. Ridiculous length for the division and used his deadly straight punching appropriately. Flawless style for his body type, that's what made him indomitable.

[BoloShot]

So let me understand this, if you're not a boxing historian, you dont know boxing?

If I were you, I'd take it easy. If I really really wanted to research Monzon, I could.

And if I'm being honest, many credible historians have ranked Hopkins over Monzon. I'm not going to act like a know-it-all and can admit when I don't know something off the top of my head, not to say I can't research it.

You should quit while you're ahead

I'm not saying that, it's just clear that it you're not familiar with quite literally the best fighter ever of a well known division then it's a fair guess that you lack a well versed historical knowledge of boxing. Sorry to hurt your feelings for staying the obvious. I don't quit either. Quitting is for pussays.

[Chollo Vista]

I'm not saying that, it's just clear that it you're not familiar with quite literally the best fighter ever of a well known division then it's a fair guess that you lack a well versed historical knowledge of boxing. Sorry to hurt your feelings for staying the obvious. I don't quit either. Quitting is for pussays.

I lack historical knowledge by having Monzon tied at #2 behind Hagler?

Look, if I'm being honest, I don't even know if Hagler and Monzon are #1 when you have Greb and Sugar Ray Robinson.

How old are you if you dont mind me asking?

And LMAO at calling Monzon the best fighter ever at MW.

[BoloShot]

I lack historical knowledge by having Monzon tied at #2 behind Hagler?

Look, if I'm being honest, I don't even know if Hagler and Monzon are #1 when you have Greb and Sugar Ray Robinson.

How old are you if you dont mind me asking?

Sugar Ray Robinson was more than a middleweight GOAT, he was the p4p GOAT based on his exploits from welterweight to light heavyweight. Greb is a similar case, he had success at middleweight and light heavyweight. In terms of single division rulers, Monzón is king above all. But you're right, those guys are better than Monzón. Although h2h that may be a different story. I'm 22, why you asking? I'm just an avid fan and a boxer who tries to learn as much as possible about the history of boxing. Through my years of following it I've encountered many people who are both well versed on boxing and those who are still learning about it. I kinda pegged you for a fella who's on the path to learning plenty about it rather than the former. I'm not insulting you.

[Chollo Vista]

I'm not saying that, it's just clear that it you're not familiar with quite literally the best fighter ever

So let's get this straight.

You're saying Monzon is greater than Greb and Robinson?

[Boxing_1013]

Can someone explain what Monzon in particular did that was so exceptional? And have most people putting him so high actually watched film on him? Sincere questions.

[Boxing_1013]

So let's get this straight.

You're saying Monzon is greater than Greb and Robinson?

Lunacy man...I urge people to actually look at film on Monzon and tell me what it is they are seeing that I am not

[Chollo Vista]

Sugar Ray Robinson was more than a middleweight GOAT, he was the p4p GOAT based on his exploits from welterweight to light heavyweight. Greb is a similar case, he had success at middleweight and light heavyweight. In terms of single division rulers, Monzón is king above all.

Stop right there. You said, and I quote "it's just clear that it you're not familiar with quite literally the best fighter ever".

Now this is comical, especially when there were several GREATER middleweights than Monzon in terms of "greatness", but also "head to head".

I just find it funny for you to lecture me on the history of boxing while calling Carlos Monzon "literally the best fighter ever" as you put it.

Now which one is it?