Rank the following Middleweights

[Slapsie Maxsie]

Monzon Hagler Hopkins GGG Martinez

[Citizen Koba]

Nah, I'm going to give G the wins lol It's just if anyone asks, I'll always explain why I felt it didn't go the other way.

As far as Sergio, he was pushing 40 if I'm not mistaken with bad knees... So yeah, his time was up... That was right around the time G was fresh on the scene.

I always felt Sergio ducked G, but then again, Sergio was hurt a lot

**** no, I'd never say Sergio ducked Golovkin... gotta understand that the WBC was planning the Sergio / Cotto / Canelo match-ups almost before Maravilla got his hand raised against Burger Boy... Vegas wanted a new Star and the WBC wanted a Mexican star and as soon as it became apparent that that wasn't going to be Jr they switched their efforts to Canelo. By their own admission the WBC had been planning Maravilla vs Cotto and then Canelo vs the winner since before GGG was even really relevant. No way on earth should old Maravilla have passed on that retirement opportunity - woulda have to have been an absolute dumbass to fight GGG in the circumstances, though I'm sure he would have been game if the money was right.

[The D3vil]

Hagler and Monzon are pretty decisively at the top, then Hopkins, then Golovkin, then Martinez.

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[BoloShot]

Gotcha... Yeah, sounds like Monzon then

Yeah, his resumé is great too. Off the top of my head he beat Emile Griffith twice, Nino Benvenuti twice, Jose Napoles twice, Rodrigo Valdes twice, Jean Claude Bouttier twice, Tony Mundine, Bennie Briscoe and Tom Bogs once apiece. That's a hell of a run.

[White Mandela]

Monzon
Hagler
GGG
Martinez
Hopkins

[White Mandela]

Good points. I missed the part where TS asked for "reigns".

But you also have to consider that Hopkins was "undisputed" champ for over 3 years.

I'd have to research Monzon, but off the top of your head, do you know why he never became undisputed champ? I'm not sure.

You’d have to research Monzon. Are you a casual esse?

[White Mandela]

Hell yeah he was. No IBF or WBO then so he had that on lock for years. Looked at it there. It was 6 years, almost 7.

Monzon was easily the most dominant middleweight champ.

Is that guy high or something?

[White Mandela]

Yeah, his resumé is great too. Off the top of my head he beat Emile Griffith twice, Nino Benvenuti twice, Jose Napoles twice, Rodrigo Valdes twice, Jean Claude Bouttier twice, Tony Mundine, Bennie Briscoe and Tom Bogs once apiece. That's a hell of a run.

Yes!!!! Legend........

[White Mandela]

Not quite sure I can see Maravilla over GGG. Outside of Pavlik and PWills Sergios MW run consisted of guys like Macklin, Murray and Barker... much the same level as the guys some folk on here were calling bums when GGG fought 'em.

PWills was never really a full MW and never held a title above 147 and Pavlik had literally been in alcohol rehab only a coupla months prior.

https://www.si.com/more-sports/2011/02/17/kelly-pavlikrehab

Love me some Maravilla, he's one of my favorite fighters of the last 15 years, and the fact that he was able to look as fantastic as he did undersized and in his late 30s against legit solid MWs is a testament to his skill and character, but it wasn't really that strong or long a reign.

GGG beat those same opponents far more convincingly too.

[BoloShot]

Monzon was easily the most dominant middleweight champ.

Is that guy high or something?

Guess he didn't know just how good he was, meaning he doesn't really know boxing that well yet. He should know about him now though, that guy bad one of the best jabs ever if not the best.