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  • BoloShot
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    #71
    Originally posted by Boxing_1013
    Can someone explain what Monzon in particular did that was so exceptional? And have most people putting him so high actually watched film on him? Sincere questions.
    I've watched him plenty. He has possibly the best jab ever, maybe even better than Holmes'. His straight punching in general was exceptional. He defended well, he had a great chin. Really a great boxer overall. He wasn't that fast but his timing was impeccable.

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    • Chollo Vista
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      #72
      Originally posted by BoloShot
      The fact you just called Robinson a single division champ shows how little you know. I don't tend to think of heavyweights in those terms as they fight in an open division.
      And it's not just HW as I can think of greater single division rulers.

      The heck is wrong with this kid? Aka boxing historian

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        #73
        Originally posted by Chollo Vista
        Stop right there. You said, and I quote "it's just clear that it you're not familiar with quite literally the best fighter ever".

        Now this is comical, especially when there were several GREATER middleweights than Monzon in terms of "greatness", but also "head to head".

        I just find it funny for you to lecture me on the history of boxing while calling Carlos Monzon "literally the best fighter ever" as you put it.

        Now which one is it?
        You're like a trump hating journo. Took a clip out of context. Did I call him the best fighter ever? Nope. The best fighter ever in his division alone.

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          #74
          Originally posted by BoloShot
          I've watched him plenty. He has possibly the best jab ever, maybe even better than Holmes'.
          Bwahahahhahahhaha

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          • BoloShot
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            #75
            Originally posted by Chollo Vista
            "quite literally the best fighter ever".

            You said it, not me.
            Wow I didn't say that though, I said the best in his division and that's it.

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            • BoloShot
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              #76
              Originally posted by Chollo Vista
              Bwahahahhahahhaha

              You have not watched him if you think that's a ridiculous claim.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                Insulted? No

                Amazed at your arrogance and ******ity? Yes.
                No you got insulted. You only went on the offensive when I said you clearly don't know your **** if you don't know about Monzón. Which is entirely true.

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                • BoloShot
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Chollo Vista
                  I never called Robinson a single division champ. I just said he was a greater MW than Monzon.

                  Don't lump me in with your ignorance.
                  No you just included him in a list of better single division rulers than Monzón... Forgetting things. Taking sections of what I said to make me look dumb without completing them. Your game that you're playing here is pathetic.

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                    #79
                    It's always almost impossibly difficult to compare fighters from different eras.
                    That said, among Monzon's 9 draws, 7 were when he was fighting in his home country, where he was a national hero.

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                    • Chollo Vista
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by BoloShot
                      Wow I didn't say that though, I said the best in his division and that's it.
                      Look Mr. Historian, he's not even a better MW than Hagler, let alone Greb or Robinson.

                      And he damn sure isn't the best "anything" of his division of all time as I can think of several fighters who were better in their respective divisions than Monzon.

                      And you saying he has a better jab than Larry Holmes should = death by firing squad as that's one of the most asinine posts I've ever seen in my life.

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