Should the HW division be broken down into divisions?

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  • Boxingraya
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    #41
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
    It is the ultimate division.

    A fighter from my knowledge does not even have to weigh over 200 pounds 'If you are game enough? You are good to go etc'.
    I am actually ok with that, sort of. Kind of BS though when a 148lb guy is deemed too big or unfair advantage if he tries to fight a 147 pounder.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Boxingraya
      I am actually ok with that, sort of. Kind of BS though when a 148lb guy is deemed too big or unfair advantage if he tries to fight a 147 pounder.
      I think the cruiser-weight division could go back to 190 pounds, YOU will then see a greater influx of classical physique heavyweights being forced back into the division 'The cruiser-weight division has actually taken a lot out of the heavyweight division.

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        #43
        Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
        At HW they all have the mass to crack and hurt each other
        I'm not sure what this means but it sounds ****** as fucck.

        If you couldn't see how the weight and size of Fury helped in his destruction of Wilder you are blind.

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          #44
          Originally posted by TheFrog
          It's what makes the Heavyweight division special. People get in to these petty arguments of who is the best p4p or the best in this or that division. This guy cuts weight and so he's a "weight bully"
          This other guy went up by 4 lbs so he's a multiple division champion.

          At Heavyweight there's no excuse. You either can win or you can't. You don't get to cry about being too small. Makes it fun!
          So instead of weight limits to even up the fight, let a guy who outweighs his opponent by 40 lbs beat the crap out of someone and call him the greatest? Lol. Naww.

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            #45
            It’s been going on forever. And besides the one super talented person who is that big and that good of a boxer, it doesn’t matter. We’ve seen people with 40 pound weight advantages get beat up at heavyweight all throughout history.

            Originally posted by Boxingraya
            40lb differences are bad in any division. I don't know what you're smoking.

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              #46
              Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
              It’s been going on forever. And besides the one super talented person who is that big and that good of a boxer, it doesn’t matter. We’ve seen people with 40 pound weight advantages get beat up at heavyweight all throughout history.
              Fine. Then explain why a guy who weighs 148 is too big and its unfair for him to fight at 147.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Boxingraya
                So instead of weight limits to even up the fight, let a guy who outweighs his opponent by 40 lbs beat the crap out of someone and call him the greatest? Lol. Naww.
                I hear you! That's the reason for the weight classes in the first place.
                But I also think that it's okay to stop at a certain point and just acknowledge "okay you're in with the big boys now"
                Personally I'd give Cruiserweight a 5lb bump and make it 205 like in MMA. I would then throw in a 190lb division because I have never understood that massive jump from 175 to 200.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Boxingraya
                  Fine. Then explain why a guy who weighs 148 is too big and its unfair for him to fight at 147.
                  154 division actually exists since 1962.

                  We need less divisions, not more.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                    154 division actually exists since 1962.

                    We need less divisions, not more.
                    I don't really give a crap when it was started. I'm neither for or against more divisons. My point is, some of these weight differences in the HW division are huge. I don't see the fairness in praising a guy 25lbs or more heavier than his opponent in the HW division, when fighters who outweigh their foes by even 10lbs on fight night are called weight bullies in the under 200lb divisions.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Boxingraya
                      I don't really give a crap when it was started. I'm neither for or against more divisons. My point is, some of these weight differences in the HW division are huge. I don't see the fairness in praising a guy 25lbs or more heavier than his opponent in the HW division, when fighters who outweigh their foes by even 10lbs on fight night are called weight bullies in the under 200lb divisions.
                      The whole "weight bully" thing is just whiney fans. Everyone went nuts and lost their minds when Pacquiao came up and staryed beating DLH, Margarito, Cotto, Clottey etc.
                      Had he lost those fights would people have said that these guys were weight bullying poor little Manny? I guess they probably would have but it's hypocritical lol

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