Should the HW division be broken down into divisions?

[ShaneMosleySr]

No.

The lighter heavyweight division will just be an extension of Cruiserweight. It’ll be meaningless. Everyone will try to fight in the super heavyweight because it will be the money division.

OR

If you can actually prevent smaller fighters from moving up to super heavyweight, then super heavyweight would be boring. It would be fat guys, huge men who aren’t coordinated enough to box well and Tyson Fury ruling them all.

I also think heavyweight isn’t a good enough division to get split up. The product would suffer if it happened.

[boliodogs]

Absolutely.

Fans don’t have an issue with a 315lb fighter being able to fight a 215lb fighter, because it’s not their brain being rattled by a dude 100lbs bigger than them.

But yes, from a safety standpoint, HW should be broken up. At the very least, 201-250lbs, which is still a high max, but better. Sports, like everything else, needs to adjust to changes. HW’s are now bigger and taller. HW’s in the past were 180-200lbs. That changed when bigger boxers started getting into the HW division and crushing smaller HW’s with their size and power advantage, and Cruiserweight was born for that.

Sanctioning bodies and athletic commissions need to look out for the safety of fighters and create another weight division from 200lbs to maybe 250lbs, from 251 to 280lbs, and then 281lbs+.

Call 175lbs Light/Junior Cruiserweight, Cruiserweight is still Cruiserweight. 200lbs-250lbs is Light Heavyweight. LHW’s name was very literal in its inception, it was literally Light Heavyweight meaning the weight that comes before Heavyweight. It is clearly no longer that as there is now Cruiserweight before HW. So LHW is no longer true to its name. Call 251-280lbs Super Heavyweight. Call 281lbs+ Maxweight. Why? The smallest weight class is called Minimum Weight. So why not call the biggest weight class Max weight?

In boxing you know who you will be fighting before the fight. If a poor little 215 pound boxer like Liston or Foreman or Ali thinks a 315 pound monster will hurt him then just don't sign the contract and don't fight him. It's that simple. meanwhile no 315 pound boxer has ever bean the world's heavyweight champion and about 98% of all past heavyweight champions have been under 250 pounds and usually well under that weight.

[boliodogs]

If Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield were fighting today, both men who could easily weigh under 220lbs they would be dominating. Only Fury would be a problem but in the end they would win.

Besides Fury, there hasn't really been a great champion that's been so big during their early years. Wladamir in his 20's was around 230lbs as was Lennox and Rid**** Bowe. Wasn't until they were much older that they weighed around 250lbs.

This is all true. Some of the famous heavyweight champs get old and fat and weigh much more than when in their prime. prime Ali fought as low as 201 pounds and Fury has been down in the 240s and is pretty fat at 276.

[-Kev-]

- -Why not call U Max JellyMon and give U a boxing expert title?

Good lord. Go away. You’re corny.

[-Kev-]

In boxing you know who you will be fighting before the fight. If a poor little 215 pound boxer like Liston or Foreman or Ali thinks a 315 pound monster will hurt him then just don't sign the contract and don't fight him. It's that simple. meanwhile no 315 pound boxer has ever bean the world's heavyweight champion and about 98% of all past heavyweight champions have been under 250 pounds and usually well under that weight.

My question to you is, have you ever boxed in the amateurs or pros?

[Eff Pandas]

I've been saying forever it's ****** weight matters for safety & competitive reasons TIL guys weigh over 200lbs & I stand by that still.

I'd like to see CW bumped up a lil & see a ceiling on HW that puts things in a somewhat better position in regards to closeness of weight. I think you could do away with the few guys who'd be over the HW limit or start a freakshow division for guys too big for HW like MMA has with their SHW 266lb+ division that rarely has fights & never any of note usually.

[Boxingraya]

I feel that's part of the intrigue of the heavyweight division . When u get that david vs goliath feel its exciting for casual fans etc . Its exciting period if it's a great matchup . Iam against so many weight classes in boxing , I have grown to accept it as it is now, and I def dont wanna see a super heavyweight division personally . But that's just my opinion .

None of this addresses why a 136lb guy CAN'T fight a 135lb guy though, but its completely ok to match up HW's who weigh 30 or 40 poinds apart. Where is the David VS Goliath mentality then?

[Boxingraya]

In boxing you know who you will be fighting before the fight. If a poor little 215 pound boxer like Liston or Foreman or Ali thinks a 315 pound monster will hurt him then just don't sign the contract and don't fight him. It's that simple. meanwhile no 315 pound boxer has ever bean the world's heavyweight champion and about 98% of all past heavyweight champions have been under 250 pounds and usually well under that weight.

All this applies to the divisons under 200 lbs, too. Why the hypocrisy?

[Boxingraya]

No. What you're not getting here is that the lightest men in the HW division, 210 pounds or so, can hit with enough force to knock any man alive clean out. It doesn't mater if they are fighting someone who is 400 pounds. Whereas someone who weights 120 pounds, fighting someone who weighed 170 pounds, that would be a total miss match. This just seems a jealous natured post toward the GOAT Kronk Fury. Also, the lighter HW, should have other big advantages, stamina and speed, in theory. Because of size, and body type differences, HW boxing can give us the most intriguing fights in boxing at times.

Complete BS. Nice try though.

[Boxingraya]

No.

The lighter heavyweight division will just be an extension of Cruiserweight. It’ll be meaningless. Everyone will try to fight in the super heavyweight because it will be the money division.

OR

If you can actually prevent smaller fighters from moving up to super heavyweight, then super heavyweight would be boring. It would be fat guys, huge men who aren’t coordinated enough to box well and Tyson Fury ruling them all.

I also think heavyweight isn’t a good enough division to get split up. The product would suffer if it happened.

40lb differences are bad in any division. I don't know what you're smoking.