Should the HW division be broken down into divisions?

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  • Nash out
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    #11
    No. What you're not getting here is that the lightest men in the HW division, 210 pounds or so, can hit with enough force to knock any man alive clean out. It doesn't mater if they are fighting someone who is 400 pounds. Whereas someone who weights 120 pounds, fighting someone who weighed 170 pounds, that would be a total miss match. This just seems a jealous natured post toward the GOAT Kronk Fury. Also, the lighter HW, should have other big advantages, stamina and speed, in theory. Because of size, and body type differences, HW boxing can give us the most intriguing fights in boxing at times.

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #12
      Originally posted by Boxingraya
      Why is it ok for there to be a 40lb difference just cause both guys are over 200lbs? If a guy comes in even one pound over in the LW division, he is vilified.
      - -Boxing origins are "The Open" division that got crowded up to heavyweight.

      Sorta like U crowded down into imbecilic supination.

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      • kiDynamite92
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        #13
        No. The guy to beat Tyson Fury won't be one of these huge heavies but a smaller slick boxer that has some pop.

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          #14
          It would never work anyway and is unneeded. Every skilled top level boxer over 200 pounds wants to be the undisputed best fighter in the world at ANY weight. If you have a super heavyweight class that starts at 250 and there is a great heavyweight who fights at 230 do you not allow this great 230 pound boxer to fight the super heavyweight champ because he is too small???? must he put weights in his trunks to weigh 250 or more to be allowed to fight at super heavyweight? We already have a 200 pound weight class and some cruiserweights weigh 220 in the ring. Just about every good cruiserweight champ tries their hand at heavyweight. What new weight classes do you suggest? Things are fine the way they are. Fury is probably the reason for this thread because he crushed Wilder and weighed 276 pounds when he did it. But Fury could lose to a much smaller man on a given night. Wilder came within one second of knocking him out while weighing 209 pounds and he got a slow count at that. Cruiserweight Cunningham dropped Fury hard for a 6 count and he isn't a big puncher. If you consider Fury a great heavyweight he is the only great heavyweight champ in history to weigh over 250 pounds. All the other great heavyweight champs have been under 250 and some under 200.

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            #15
            Originally posted by -Kev-
            Absolutely.

            Fans don’t have an issue with a 315lb fighter being able to fight a 215lb fighter, because it’s not their brain being rattled by a dude 100lbs bigger than them.

            But yes, from a safety standpoint, HW should be broken up. At the very least, 201-250lbs, which is still a high max, but better. Sports, like everything else, needs to adjust to changes. HW’s are now bigger and taller. HW’s in the past were 180-200lbs. That changed when bigger boxers started getting into the HW division and crushing smaller HW’s with their size and power advantage, and Cruiserweight was born for that.

            Sanctioning bodies and athletic commissions need to look out for the safety of fighters and create another weight division from 200lbs to maybe 250lbs, from 251 to 280lbs, and then 281lbs+.

            Call 175lbs Light/Junior Cruiserweight, Cruiserweight is still Cruiserweight. 200lbs-250lbs is Light Heavyweight. LHW’s name was very literal in its inception, it was literally Light Heavyweight meaning the weight that comes before Heavyweight. It is clearly no longer that as there is now Cruiserweight before HW. So LHW is no longer true to its name. Call 251-280lbs Super Heavyweight. Call 281lbs+ Maxweight. Why? The smallest weight class is called Minimum Weight. So why not call the biggest weight class Max weight?
            Do you seriously believe the champion of your 201 to 250 weight class is not going to demand a fight with the champion of your over 250 weight class????? I do believe that. Every good big man wants to call himself the best fighter in the world at any weight not just 250 or less. Ex cruiserweight champion Haye fought the 300 pound champion and Usyk would gladly fight any heavyweight no matter how much they weighed to have a chance to be the heavyweight champion. Most of the deaths and serious injuries in boxing have been below heavyweight. i can't think of any deaths caused by a 250 plus heavyweight fighting a guy who only weighs 220. Do any of these giants hit harder than prime Tyson at 220 or prime Foreman at 212 pounds which was what Foreman weighed when he almost knocked Frazier's head off. There is a point where extra weight does not help a giant because theydon't have the speed and skill to hit harder than some smaller men and they don't take a punch that well and lack stamina.

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              #16
              It's fine the way it is.

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                #17
                yes, clowns, divas and men

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                  #18
                  If Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield were fighting today, both men who could easily weigh under 220lbs they would be dominating. Only Fury would be a problem but in the end they would win.

                  Besides Fury, there hasn't really been a great champion that's been so big during their early years. Wladamir in his 20's was around 230lbs as was Lennox and Rid**** Bowe. Wasn't until they were much older that they weighed around 250lbs.

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                    #19
                    No theres to many weight classes already

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by -Kev-
                      Absolutely.

                      Fans don’t have an issue with a 315lb fighter being able to fight a 215lb fighter, because it’s not their brain being rattled by a dude 100lbs bigger than them.

                      But yes, from a safety standpoint, HW should be broken up. At the very least, 201-250lbs, which is still a high max, but better. Sports, like everything else, needs to adjust to changes. HW’s are now bigger and taller. HW’s in the past were 180-200lbs. That changed when bigger boxers started getting into the HW division and crushing smaller HW’s with their size and power advantage, and Cruiserweight was born for that.

                      Sanctioning bodies and athletic commissions need to look out for the safety of fighters and create another weight division from 200lbs to maybe 250lbs, from 251 to 280lbs, and then 281lbs+.

                      Call 175lbs Light/Junior Cruiserweight, Cruiserweight is still Cruiserweight. 200lbs-250lbs is Light Heavyweight. LHW’s name was very literal in its inception, it was literally Light Heavyweight meaning the weight that comes before Heavyweight. It is clearly no longer that as there is now Cruiserweight before HW. So LHW is no longer true to its name. Call 251-280lbs Super Heavyweight. Call 281lbs+ Maxweight. Why? The smallest weight class is called Minimum Weight. So why not call the biggest weight class Max weight?
                      - -Why not call U Max JellyMon and give U a boxing expert title?

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