Greater fighter: Fury or Andre Ward?

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  • Boxing Goat
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    #21
    Originally posted by BangEM
    Both aren’t all that and are serial cheats. They both also have questionable wins in fights that they clearly lost.

    But I’d say Fury is a bigger draw than Ward ever was.


    Wait, so now you're saying that Fury 'clearly lost' to Wilder?

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      #22
      Originally posted by dibzvincent143
      Again there’s a reason ward didn’t reach superstardom or atleast the level of fury’s or even just wilder’s popularity today despite of actually achieving more.

      That’s because he is boring AF both inside and outside the ring. And was very dirty. It’s like 10 clinch per minute kinda fight. I can’t even watched a replay of his fights. All of those headbutts ffs.
      His best win is from a low blow too.

      I came here trying to give credit to both guys, but you triggered me..
      Fury has tested for PED's. So if you're calling Ward dirty without mentioning that you are clearly not being objective. You weren't in the first place you can stop pretending that you're neutral here.

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        #23
        Originally posted by New England
        right now it's definitely andre ward. better fighter on the eye test and in accomplishments. fury's best win is still an ancient wladimir klitschko.


        you all called deontay wilder a bum, for the record. you can't call the guy who beat him great off of that. not how it works if you want to stay an honest man.
        Stop with the cliches. People predicted wilder to ko fury so people obviously rated wilder. Stop giving people's opinions who say wilder is a bum too much importance, whilst not giving importance to people thinking wilder would beat fury!
        Fury is greater, going to backyards.

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          #24
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          I not only know Ward's resume, I know the fights and the details pre-fight.

          Maybe you are fooled by simply looking into the win column.
          Lol I watched all of Ward's fights live. Wasn't a big fan of his spoiler style but he was a master at what he did and outclassed Abraham, Kessler and Froch in their primes. That alone is better than Fury's 2-0-1 title fight record yet he still went undefeated and won the legitimate LHW title as well against the champ and the boogeyman of the div. (I do think he lost the first Kovalev fight)

          Zero comparison. Anyone who ranks Fury over Ward right now knows very little about the sport or is thinking with their fan hat on.

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            #25
            Originally posted by D4thincarnation
            Now read everything before and dare say it ain't true.

            You can't, so we get a response like this.
            Refer to this bolded part:

            Lol I watched all of Ward's fights live. Wasn't a big fan of his spoiler style but he was a master at what he did and outclassed Abraham, Kessler and Froch in their primes. That alone is better than Fury's 2-0-1 title fight record yet he still went undefeated and won the legitimate LHW title as well against the champ and the boogeyman of the div. (I do think he lost the first Kovalev fight)
            Zero comparison. Anyone who ranks Fury over Ward right now knows very little about the sport or is thinking with their fan hat on.

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              #26
              Originally posted by hugh grant
              Stop with the cliches. People predicted wilder to ko fury so people obviously rated wilder. Stop giving people's opinions who say wilder is a bum too much importance, whilst not giving importance to people thinking wilder would beat fury!
              Fury is greater, going to backyards.
              This is possible but that's not really what the thread is about, is it. The fact that Ward had mostly home fights really doesn't mean much. It's not like the roar of the crowd makes a fighter have more skills or anything

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                #27
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                Abraham, who was a middleweight stepping.

                How many blatant headbutts did Ward land on Kessler.

                If that were anywhere else but Ward's hometown, Ward gets DQed.
                He Beat Froch, but weren't much of a boxer, he had a good jab, a great ***** and would wear fighters down. Styles makes fights, but Ward was still scared to fight Froch in Nottingham.

                Ward also waited till Kovalev got old, he lost the first fight on most people's scorecards, and stopped Kovalev with low blows in the 2nd fight.

                All fights Ward has home advantage and all that goes with that.
                Lmao! So this turned into debate class now. Break down each fighter.

                I'll play your game and you still lose badly.

                Wladimir was 39 and his reflexes were terribly shot

                Wilder is just a terrible boxer who has enormous power

                Those are the only two things I can really criticize based on Fury's lack of title fight appearances though

                Now that it's put of the way, you're just exposing and embarrassing yourself, you know that , right?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by New England
                  fury grew up in a boxing family and could't beat david price in the amateurs. ward won a gold medal. there are levels in boxing, all right.


                  you all call deontay wilder a bum. he had fury on the deck twice, once literally on his back and supine. did you call sergey kovalev a bum?
                  fURY MAN. pLUS HE'S A HEAVYWEIGHT.

                  Andre needed the kovalev robbery as well. Fury beat Wlad and smashed wilder that's better than anything wward has done

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by joseph5620
                    Fury has tested for PED's. So if you're calling Ward dirty without mentioning that you are clearly not being objective. You weren't in the first place you can stop pretending that you're neutral here.
                    daaaammnn. Op ask who achieved more and i said WARD at this point. But fury got the better sensational single win over wilder. And was more popular than ward because ward was boring inside and outside the ring. And fought dirty many many times.

                    The point is I still picked WARD. Despite being a fan of fury. Didn’t realize you ward stans want me to go all the way and lick his balls.
                    Okay fury was dirty with the test. But ward is still miles dirtier inside the ring than fury ever was.

                    I don’t know if you guys could even admit that. Low blows head butts elbows super clinches rabbit punches. Ward is a master of all of those.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by jmrf4435
                      fURY MAN. pLUS HE'S A HEAVYWEIGHT.

                      Andre needed the kovalev robbery as well. Fury beat Wlad and smashed wilder that's better than anything wward has done
                      Pure delusion, Wlad was 39 and Wilder just has power

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