How can GGG fans keep defending this clown?
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Good post...anyone acting like Kov was a killer and Derevy was an easy fight, well they are being very biased or are very casual.There's a reason why Canelo didn't want to face
Sergiy Derevyanchenko.."because he was chasing greatness say the canelistas" fighting worn down beat down kovalev vs a tough fighter like Sergiy, jacobs knows as well. Bivol was available and ready would've cost less than krushless.Comment
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? GGG is getting the same money per fight regardless basically...should be commended for wanting a chance at redemption at 38 vs a prime Canelo...Canelo is the one of the 2 who wants more money than he is contracted to get to face GGG.fair point, but at this stage Golovkin is being compared to Canelo
Canelo is selecting difficult opponents, Golovkin is still selecting the easiest opponent
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he happily fought Derevy, immediately after publicly stating that fighting Charlo and Andrade "made no sense"... which, makes no sense
Golovkin is copping flak because it is clearly obvious that him and Canelo are cut from a different cloth... Canelo has many more options than Golovkin, simply because he is willing to fight anyone
Golovkin is extremely lucky to be getting another handout from Canelo... especially after all those excuses, never giving Canelo any credit
Brilliant logic from you...no surprise though considering you don't even score fights but swear some guys won or lost in certain fights
lol
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What is anyone mad about lol...GGG is 38, and is clearly fighting father time...DAZN has so much riding on Canelo-GGG 3 which was just announced for September.
GGG at his age and after all he has done should get an easy fight, every other fight, until he is done...he just had probably the toughest fight of his career vs SD...if he or DAZN wants a tune up before Canelo, any reasonable person would say he is due one.
Interesting that DAZN finally got Canelo to come around on the trilogy...should be a good fight...interested to see if GGG fights before that against Kamil...will be interesting to see what he has left at this point.
GGG's activity advantage will still make him a tough fight for Canelo...but Canelo's power is really starting to show up as well...should be a great fight...rd by rd it will still probably be close even at GGG's age...but wouldn't be surprised if Canelo hurts him at some point in the fight.
If GGG wants another go at it, hey it's his call...props to him for still wanting that fight at his age.Comment
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? GGG is getting the same money per fight regardless basically...should be commended for wanting a chance at redemption at 38 vs a prime Canelo...Canelo is the one of the 2 who wants more money than he is contracted to get to face GGG.
Brilliant logic from you...no surprise though considering you don't even score fights but swear some guys won or lost in certain fights
lol
Hypekin still has Derevyanchenko problems
he is extremely lucky to be getting another handout from Canelo
btw, knowledgeable observers can see how a fight is unfolding
we can tell who is winning the exchanges, controlling the action, inflicting their gameplan on the fight, and negating their opponents style... and we can do it without furiously counting jabs on our fingers and recording the result with a pen and paper
noddy... you deleted 3 of the 4 official scoring criteria, and then ********ist the last... to try to award Golovkin the rematch... so you should STFU and stop giving other people advice
it is highly amusing that you think most REAL boxing fans studiously sit there with a pencil, fixating on counting every single jab... frantically scribbling ticks in a column... like the judges do LMAO
you can't count to 12 in your head you fool... ?
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This isn't really a handout from Canelo man...GGG got his handout from DAZN, because they always wanted this fight...GGG would fight whoever DAZN tells him to fight...they are paying him more than he is worth (unless he is fighting Canelo).Hypekin still has Derevyanchenko problems
he is extremely lucky to be getting another handout from Canelo
btw, knowledgeable observers can see how a fight is unfolding
we can tell who is winning the exchanges, controlling the action, inflicting their gameplan on the fight, and negating their opponents style... and we can do it without furiously counting jabs on our fingers and recording the result with a pen and paper
noddy... you deleted 3 of the 4 official scoring criteria, and then ********ist the last... to try to award Golovkin the rematch... so you should STFU and stop giving other people advice
it is highly amusing that you think most REAL boxing fans studiously sit there with a pencil, fixating on counting every single jab... frantically scribbling ticks in a column... like the judges do LMAO
you can't count to 12 in your head you fool... ?
And dude why are you bragging that you don't score fights man...it's embarrassing...like in order to really have an opinion about who won/lost a fight...you have to score it, like the judges do...tally it up after the round and score it for who you think won.
That you don't score fights, and haven't in decades...yet you have these huge opinions about who won/lost...I mean it's sad man...I can't believe that you don't see how ridiculous that is.
It honestly really makes you seem like a guy who just roots for who you want to win...which is an overwhelming percentage of the guys on here, so don't feel bad.. they will make all efforts to try and score that fight for their guy...if they actually forced themselves to score it, you may find that your guy didn't really win, and that would probably shatter their psyche.
You seem like a good dude man...but yeah I lost all enjoyment of mixing it up with you when you admitted that you haven't even scored a fight in decades...just sad dude, like wtf.
In any event, hope you guys are staying safe down there from the corona/wuhan flu.Comment
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This isn't really a handout from Canelo man...GGG got his handout from DAZN, because they always wanted this fight...GGG would fight whoever DAZN tells him to fight...they are paying him more than he is worth (unless he is fighting Canelo).
And dude why are you bragging that you don't score fights man...it's embarrassing...like in order to really have an opinion about who won/lost a fight...you have to score it, like the judges do...tally it up after the round and score it for who you think won.
That you don't score fights, and haven't in decades...yet you have these huge opinions about who won/lost...I mean it's sad man...I can't believe that you don't see how ridiculous that is.
It honestly really makes you seem like a guy who just roots for who you want to win...which is an overwhelming percentage of the guys on here, so don't feel bad.. they will make all efforts to try and score that fight for their guy...if they actually forced themselves to score it, you may find that your guy didn't really win, and that would probably shatter their psyche.
You seem like a good dude man...but yeah I lost all enjoyment of mixing it up with you when you admitted that you haven't even scored a fight in decades...just sad dude, like wtf.
In any event, hope you guys are staying safe down there from the corona/wuhan flu.
you lost your ability to " mix it up " with anyone... when you DESTROYED the official scoring criteria, to justify why you think that Golovkin beat Canelo
and btw, the story you told a few days ago to explain the criteria for greatness, is the ******est thing I have ever heard
you think the criteria for greatness is how you fare against good/average opponents... and how you fare against greats has no bearing, because fighters often lose to other great fighters LMAOOOO
where do you get that lame corny shlt ?
nobody is dumber than you fanboy

I added that to your list.....
thinks that Golovkin has a better resume than Canelo.....
----------------------------I just made a thread about specifically why people rate Canelo's resume as better than GGG's...and I laid out my case as to why I rate GGG's better.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=820918
thinks that one of the " killers " on Golovkin's resume could have beaten Canelo.... but will not say which one
----------------------------I don't think Canelo would have gotten all of his guys out by KO and maybe would not have 'won' all of them.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...820918&page=10
thinks that Golovkin has faced more quality opposition than almost any other fighter in history.....
----------------------------Originally posted by Boxing1013never had a slip up against quality opposition, and he faced probably more of them than almost any other fighter in history...
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=824905
thinks that Andre Ward is no better than Bika Barrera and Miranda
----------------------------I just never really saw the skills from him..... if he was born in a different country I don't think he would have been looked at much differently than Bika Barrera or Miranda etc.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...2#post19903762
thinks that Golovkin has 5-6 'great' wins..... but cannot even name 1 of those 'great' wins
----------------------------Yeah he has about 10+ good wins imo...and 5-6 'great' wins if you want to term it that...great fighter, great career...an ATG at MW...that's pretty clear I think..... If a great win is a dominant win over another prime great fighter...I would say GGG has quite a few tbh.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...821123&page=20
thinks that Lemieux, Murray... are the same level as Canelo/Jacobs
----------------------------Lemieux, Murray pretty clearly around the level of SD Canelo Jacobs...
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...9#post20112309
thinks that Murray Lemieux Monroe and Vanes, are better wins for Golovkin..... than Lara Cotto Trout and Mosley, are for Canelo.....
----------------------------Canelo's top wins would be Lara..Jacobs and Cotto imo...GGG's would be Jacobs, Murray and Lemieux...I don't see a ton of separation there..... winning 7-5 vs a great Lara...and going 12 with a shot fat Cotto...is not imo better than 8 Round destruction of Lemieux...and 11 round destruction of Murray..... Vanes was inactive and moving up in weight...but he wasn't shot like SSM more or less was..... I don't think going 12 with Mosley when Canelo did, or 12 with Trout, are better wins than GGG running through Monroe and Geale.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...820918&page=16
creates a thread misquoting Steve Weisfeld.....
-------------------------------Boxing1013 attempted to remove defence, ring generalship, and effective aggression, as official scoring criteria..... to justify why he thinks Golovkin beat Canelo in their rematch..... but, had NO IDEA that Steve Weisfeld was AN OFFICIAL JUDGE at the Canelo/Golovkin rematch..... and Weisfeld scored that fight for Canelo looool
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=818903
proves that he has no idea how to score a professional boxing match...
-------------------------------I'll also tell you how I score them...generally give a 'full point' for a good hard clean shot...and a 'half point' for a punch that is a scoring blow but isn't necessarily super hard or clean.
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...3#post20372893
thinks Golovkin's resume is just as good as Pernell Whitaker's resume
-------------------------------Originally posted by Boxing_1013resume wise it is interesting that one dominated with decision wins over good fighters, and one with KO wins over good fighters...both having the same number of wins, and about the same number of good wins.
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=843266
thinks that Daniel Geale is a better fighter than Jeff Fenech
-------------------------------Originally posted by Boxing_1013I would even say Geale in his prime was a better fighter than Fenech
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...=843266&page=2
has NO idea what qualifies a fighter for greatness
I think you are once again another on here who fails to realize that what makes 99% of great fighters great - is beating 9/10 or even 10/10 of the good solid pros they faced...most greats only face 1-2 or maybe 3 other greats in their primes/best weights, and usually they have mixed results there.
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