When did Eddie Hearn start thinking he’s a special promoter?

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  • BangEM
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    #51
    Originally posted by OnlytheTruth
    Well, its all perspective isn't it? Callum Smith is the unanimous #1 Super-Middleweight. He signed to Matchroom when he turned Pro. So I've answered your question - you just are choosing to be argumentative.

    As I said, Joshua is a massive star with very few peers, it would be difficult to emulate that.
    But is Callum Smith a draw?

    Hearn keeps selling himself that he made AJ a star (which he didn’t) and everyone acts like without Hearn there won’t be AJ. But anyone with a brain knows that isn’t true. He just hit a lottery with a guy that was destined to be a star.

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    • Toffee
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      #52
      Originally posted by BangEM
      But is Callum Smith a draw?

      Hearn keeps selling himself that he made AJ a star (which he didn’t) and everyone acts like without Hearn there won’t be AJ. But anyone with a brain knows that isn’t true. He just hit a lottery with a guy that was destined to be a star.
      If everyone knew AJ was going to be one of the biggest draws in the sport... then how was Hearn lucky?

      Why didn't someone else sign him up and take him pro?

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      • BangEM
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        #53
        Originally posted by Toffee
        If everyone knew AJ was going to be one of the biggest draws in the sport... then how was Hearn lucky?

        Why didn't someone else sign him up and take him pro?
        He had many offers and Hearn actually offered the least money. His coach (Rob MCCrakken) just advised him to go with Hearn due to the relationship he had with Hearn via Carl Froch who was signed to Hearn.

        Stop acting like he didn’t have offers twice what Hearn offered. He was the hottest amateur back then. Rob made him sign with Hearn.

        Till Hearn creates a star not named AJ, he’s on lucky SOB.

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        • MulaKO
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          #54
          Originally posted by that g
          my tone didn't change dude. im just choosing to respond with grace, something you lack. i'm not the one butthurt and grieving over the PBC. you didn't' expose anything. i stand up for business and financial integrity, something that matchroom has, and pbc does not.

          keep up the insults though. you're still sorry.
          Really but what difference does it make in my life if or what happens to PBC
          I don’t gain or lose anything financially or emotionally
          Wanna try again dumbazz
          And which part of don’t reply didn’t you understand re tard
          Seems like your missing something fughin jerkoff

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            #55
            Originally posted by BangEM
            But is Callum Smith a draw?

            Hearn keeps selling himself that he made AJ a star (which he didn’t) and everyone acts like without Hearn there won’t be AJ. But anyone with a brain knows that isn’t true. He just hit a lottery with a guy that was destined to be a star.
            Warren wouldn't have made AJ as big as he is.

            Bellew and Froch were nowhere near the draws they became until they got with Hearn either.

            He is a very good promoter, whether you like him or not. Look where UK boxing was a few years before he gained that exclusive contract with Sky when they had Warren, Hatton, Maloney etc. Yes he was also in the right place at the right time, but that is life basically. Everyone who reaches the peak of their subject matter has had those benefits. Hearn in the UK is no different.

            He's obviously not like that in the USA though. He's basically admitted that he was caught completely off guard and pants down by the politics and roadblocking involved in US boxing. That's probably why he went in with a deliberate big mouth to try and make a splash which in hindsight was a very questionable tactic.
            Last edited by Chinned; 03-16-2020, 03:33 PM.

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            • Tutsa
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              #56
              First time his started rolling with the 8ball , powder is a hell va drug !! Surprised he hasn’t jumped of a high building thinking he can fly

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              • that g
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                #57
                Originally posted by MulaKO
                Really but what difference does it make in my life if or what happens to PBC
                I don’t gain or lose anything financially or emotionally
                Wanna try again dumbazz
                And which part of don’t reply didn’t you understand re tard
                Seems like your missing something fughin jerkoff
                lol we coulld do this all day. keep looking for expletives to betray your sorry state. doesn't matter. you're still a loser. Pbc still sucks, and Eddie hearn is still the best promoter at the moment. deal with it.

                via *****

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                • Kezzer
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                  #58
                  Wow I don’t understand how or why so many people resent Eddie so much. “He got lucky with AJ, anyone could create him”.

                  In my view a number of key achievements:

                  Dazn - to be seen just how successful yet overtime but no other promoter in such a short time has broken into another market in such a drastic way.

                  AJ - the rise and rise of ; you can argue AJ was known before/during olympics but reality is that he has built him up. I can tell you for example that I never saw AJ until after the olympics. To build him up in the way he did with not just clever matchmaking but clever choices, using different Venues across the country , big fights such as Froch groves and making sure he was hyped up each one. You don’t just turn into a big star, look at wilder and fury - they both envy what Hearn has managed with AJ. Who has else loses a fight and then does his next fight in Saudi Arabia , in front of 1.6 mil ppv uk and highest ever payday? Unheard of.

                  Katie Taylor/women’s boxing - it’s fair to say that Eddie has begun to champion women’s boxing. Others have followed too now but the majority of matchroom cards have women boxing on somewhere on the card. He has obviously used Katie, similar to AJ, to frontline this. But could frank warren have done it for example, he tried with Adams and didn’t get far.

                  KSI vs Logan 2 - Many didn’t like this move but it’s a “dare to be great” move than entrepreneurs do? Not all come off but to dip his toe into another new market, when you would think he has enough going on - is ambitious to say the least!

                  Other memorable mentions for me is he way he has turned or brought up a few boxers in particular:

                  Carl Froch
                  Callum Smith
                  Tony Bellew
                  Dillian Whyte (after AJ fight)
                  Luke campbell
                  A number of uk fighters, lesser known at world level.

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                  • Zaroku
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by BangEM
                    Just saying he’s not special/successful just because he’s some great promoter. He was just lucky to hit the jackpot with Josh. His CV before and after Josh showed that.

                    So why do people act like he’s some special promoter?
                    He needs to talk more chit. My wife thinks he’s very handsome which makes me want to f him up.

                    I purr like a lion . He makes deals.

                    I make deals.., usually bad deals... but.., guys cut me slack.

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                    • Articulateboxin
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by BangEM
                      How come this ‘special’ promoter never turned any boxer into a star apart from Josh who was already destined for stardom?

                      Or can you name any other star Hearn created before and after Josh? Even Haney was already a name before he signed with him and he’s still the same.

                      Also, his DAZN deal was mostly because of Josh. Most of his shows in the US have flopped.
                      From what i've read, you don't seem to be listening or willing to stand corrected, so there is little point in anybody typing anything really. You have your opinion on Hearn and no amount of statistical data is going to deter you. However just because i don't think anybody is beyond hope, i'll give it a crack!

                      To put it very plainly, Kell Brook and Carl Froch made more money for Hearn in 2014, than every fighter ADDED TOGETHER under any British promoter in the same year.

                      Now that's without AJ or any other boxers in the stable, i'm not sure how many examples you need but even if you removed AJ from mathrooms revenue, Hearn has still made more than every other british promoter added together, not to mention he was the first promoter to land an exclusive deal with Sky. I'm not sure what it takes to be considered special, but if he hasn't done that in your eyes yet, it's never going to happen.

                      As a side note, the no context hearn thing has never existed for any other promoter before either. You don't think he's the most recognizable promoter in the world? You don't even have to like the dude, but his fighters (Not AJ) resurrected british boxing if nothing else.
                      Last edited by Articulateboxin; 03-17-2020, 03:03 AM.

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