When did Eddie Hearn start thinking he’s a special promoter?

[sunny31]

Dubois and Josh are two different enti.ties. Josh already had a huge following even before the Olympics and after the olympics, he became bigger. That was way before he signed with Hearn.

No boxer in modern British boxing history had the same hype as Josh when he was about to turn pro. When he turned pro, it was headline news. That had absolutely nothing to do with Hearn. And when he started his pro debuts and was knocking everyone out, he got bigger and kept making headline news. Dubois doesn't even have a quarter of that at this stage of his career.

Stop crediting Hearn for a guy who was already a star before he signed with Hearn. Josh made Hearn the promoter he became, not the other way around. Why is Hearn yet to create another star? And I don't want to hear any excuse about lack of talent because most of the best British talents are signed to Hearn. How come he's yet to turn any of them into a star?

What did Hearn build apart from terrible matchmaking due to greed by throwing Josh into the deep end early? If Josh wasn't as good as he's, the terrible matchmaking would've destroyed him. He didn't even let the guy horn his skills properly. And the greed and terrible matchmaking is the reason why he almost ruined the guy's career in New York with a dumb late replacement fight and unnecessary pressure.

Is Dillian Whyte not a star? I think he probably is...hes one of the 5 or 6 highest paid fighters in boxing.

Kell Brook's career was going nowhere fast until he went with Matchroom, somehow Hearn made his fight with Matthew Hatton into a big event, and has made him into a millionaire since

Joshua may have been destined to be a star, but Hearn made sure he fulfilled that marketing potential along with Joshua's management. They still had the vision to put on the Wembley fights and other stadium fights. I would also say Amir Khan's hype was greater than Joshua's when he turned pro, at the very least it was the same.

Daniel Jacob's is a multimillionaire, they kept him winning and positioned him for the Canelo fight.

I think at times his matchmaking could be a bit more refined, but that will come with time and experience, he is a young man as far as promoting goes...but I definitely see him as a bit of a virtuoso, you can tell when someone is very good at what they do, and he is very very good at promoting in the truest sense of the word

[champion4ever]

"If bullshit was poetry, then Eddie Hearn would be William Shakespeare".

[BangEM]

Is Dillian Whyte not a star? I think he probably is...hes one of the 5 or 6 highest paid fighters in boxing.

Kell Brook's career was going nowhere fast until he went with Matchroom, somehow Hearn made his fight with Matthew Hatton into a big event, and has made him into a millionaire since

Joshua may have been destined to be a star, but Hearn made sure he fulfilled that marketing potential along with Joshua's management. They still had the vision to put on the Wembley fights and other stadium fights. I would also say Amir Khan's hype was greater than Joshua's when he turned pro, at the very least it was the same.

Daniel Jacob's is a multimillionaire, they kept him winning and positioned him for the Canelo fight.

I think at times his matchmaking could be a bit more refined, but that will come with time and experience, he is a young man as far as promoting goes...but I definitely see him as a bit of a virtuoso, you can tell when someone is very good at what they do, and he is very very good at promoting in the truest sense of the word

Dillian Whyte isn't a star. He became what he's via the residual effect of Josh's starpower and their rivalry. Dillian can't even sell out o2 by himself without having a loaded card with other boxers bringing their own fan base. And that's a boxer that keeps taking all kinds of difficult fights.

Take a look at Dillian Whyte's biggest fights: Parker (coming off fighting Josh) and Chisora who's fan favourite way before Hearn.

Kell Brook got his career ruined because of Hearn. If not for the dumb GGG fight, he'd be in the mix in 147 right now. Brook at his peak didn't even have Amir Khan's starpower.

Hearn just tagged along and made himself a star off the back of Josh. Granted he provided money for the fights but it wasn't his big mouth that sold the tickets.

[BangEM]

"If bullshit was poetry, then Eddie Hearn would be William Shakespeare".

First time I agree with you. That geezer chats so much shiiiit and acts like he's some type of promoter with the midas touch.

[Vinnykin]

Froch/Groves 2 was when he thought he was the bees-knees........ even Froch did.

[MulaKO]

Eddie Hearn reminds me of Wilder
Take it anyway you want but the similarities are there
Loud mouth , excuses for everything that goes wrong and honestly , an azzhole

[that g]

Dillian Whyte isn't a star. He became what he's via the residual effect of Josh's starpower and their rivalry. Dillian can't even sell out o2 by himself without having a loaded card with other boxers bringing their own fan base. And that's a boxer that keeps taking all kinds of difficult fights.

Take a look at Dillian Whyte's biggest fights: Parker (coming off fighting Josh) and Chisora who's fan favourite way before Hearn.

Kell Brook got his career ruined because of Hearn. If not for the dumb GGG fight, he'd be in the mix in 147 right now. Brook at his peak didn't even have Amir Khan's starpower.

Hearn just tagged along and made himself a star off the back of Josh. Granted he provided money for the fights but it wasn't his big mouth that sold the tickets.

lol you asked for an opinion. someone gave you a valid one. then you wrote paragraphs shutting it down.
you just want to justify your eddie hearn bashing.

eddie hearn is currently the best promoter in the sport, financially, in terms of popularity, in terms of fighter success. deal with it.

[MulaKO]

lol you asked for an opinion. someone gave you a valid one. then you wrote paragraphs shutting it down.
you just want to justify your eddie hearn bashing.

eddie hearn is currently the best promoter in the sport, financially, in terms of popularity, in terms of fighter success. deal with it.

You just pointed out that ****’em undermined someone and you do the exact same thing
Hater and fangirl

Smfh

[Inspired]

How come this ‘special’ promoter never turned any boxer into a star apart from Josh who was already destined for stardom?

Or can you name any other star Hearn created before and after Josh? Even Haney was already a name before he signed with him and he’s still the same.

Also, his DAZN deal was mostly because of Josh. Most of his shows in the US have flopped.

give me examples of guys he's promoted who should have become major stars, but didn't.

from what ive seen he's promoted guys who are just below the elite/top level and has got them more money than what their counterparts in the US are making. As a result of his guidance at one stage the UK had the most champions of any nation in the sport. He was clearly delivering the titles for his guys. Those guys were also selling out arenas.

Example
Crolla vs Perez 2, when Crolla finally became a world champion.

https://twitter.com/matchroomboxing/status/668201755218440192

Sell out arena, brilliant atmosphere..this was the main event.
That's about the highest level Crolla was ever going to reach.
Eddie delivered for him.
Lomachenko who is leagues above Crolla, can't sell out arenas in the US.
The difference is blatantly Eddie Hearn.

Carl Froch vs Kessler 2..another example.
Sell out event at the o2

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/carl-froch-proves-the-hottest-ticket-in-town-after-sell-out-hbhkc5kdpql

Also, saying 'before and after joshua' is a pointless statement, since Joshua can't be ignored. The hypothetical argument that Joshua would be a major star on any other promotion/network for example has no legs at all. We have seen the likes of Wilder and Fury fall short of that. in fact, Fury's fall is in large part due to bad management and promotion by Hennessy. He had no one fighting his corner in the media.

As for your final claim that Eddie's cards have been a failure in the US. He's literally entered a dead market and decided upon entry that he plans on experimenting/touring different states/cities, trying new things in order to work out the market sentiment.
He's even said before that he's under his budget. So he hasnt really started yet.
the last card was insane.
the miami card was a bit ****.

[MEXICAN STYLE]

I admire Edward's enthusiasm for boxing.