When did Eddie Hearn start thinking he’s a special promoter?

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  • BangEM
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    #11
    Originally posted by Inspired
    You think when i go on youtube and listen to an eddie hearn interview, it's because he's got Anthony Joshua?
    I do it because he's got plenty to say and there's always something going on (in boxing) with EH. His name is connected to most of what goes on in the boxing world now. That suggests he's a special promoter.

    He's intelligent, funny, got the gift of the gab...he can sell a fight, but of course the fight/fighters have to do their part.
    For example, BJS would have to beat Canelo if/when they fight. if bjs doesn't, it isnt eddie hearn's fault.
    What makes someone a 'star' is more than just the promoter, it's their marketability, popularity and the ability to back it up.

    Tell me, why didnt Danny Garcia or Keith thurman or Spence or Hurd or Charlo's get the GGG fight? why was it Kell Brook?
    it's because of the uk, right? that's down to who?
    How come this ‘special’ promoter never turned any boxer into a star apart from Josh who was already destined for stardom?

    Or can you name any other star Hearn created before and after Josh? Even Haney was already a name before he signed with him and he’s still the same.

    Also, his DAZN deal was mostly because of Josh. Most of his shows in the US have flopped.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Monty Fisto
      To answer the original question directly, it was probably around the time he staged the Joshua/Klitschko fight in front of 95,000 fans at Wembley Stadium, the largest HW boxing crowd in 90 years.
      But that wasn’t him. That was because Josh was becoming a massive name and he was outselling o2. Warren would’ve pulled the same thing off if he had Josh.

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        #13
        Originally posted by BangEM
        But that wasn’t him. That was because Josh was becoming a massive name and he was outselling o2. Warren would’ve pulled the same thing off if he had Josh.
        Warren is working with Dubois, someone who has that Bruno type of appeal, and has utterly failed with him so far.

        AJ v Whyte for the British title was huge news and sold out the O2.

        Dubois v Gorman for the British title sold half of the O2 and nobody other than hardcore's cared.

        Hearn is a great promoter and AJ wouldn't be the entity he is without Hearn building him.

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          #14
          Originally posted by EnglishOxide
          Warren is working with Dubois, someone who has that Bruno type of appeal, and has utterly failed with him so far.

          AJ v Whyte for the British title was huge news and sold out the O2.

          Dubois v Gorman for the British title sold half of the O2 and nobody other than hardcore's cared.

          Hearn is a great promoter and AJ wouldn't be the entity he is without Hearn building him.
          Dubois and Josh are two different enti.ties. Josh already had a huge following even before the Olympics and after the olympics, he became bigger. That was way before he signed with Hearn.

          No boxer in modern British boxing history had the same hype as Josh when he was about to turn pro. When he turned pro, it was headline news. That had absolutely nothing to do with Hearn. And when he started his pro debuts and was knocking everyone out, he got bigger and kept making headline news. Dubois doesn't even have a quarter of that at this stage of his career.

          Stop crediting Hearn for a guy who was already a star before he signed with Hearn. Josh made Hearn the promoter he became, not the other way around. Why is Hearn yet to create another star? And I don't want to hear any excuse about lack of talent because most of the best British talents are signed to Hearn. How come he's yet to turn any of them into a star?

          What did Hearn build apart from terrible matchmaking due to greed by throwing Josh into the deep end early? If Josh wasn't as good as he's, the terrible matchmaking would've destroyed him. He didn't even let the guy horn his skills properly. And the greed and terrible matchmaking is the reason why he almost ruined the guy's career in New York with a dumb late replacement fight and unnecessary pressure.

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            #15
            So he's not responsible for any success by any fighter, but entirely responsible for Joshua's sole loss?

            You wouldn't happen to have an agenda would you?

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              #16
              Originally posted by BangEM
              Just saying he’s not special/successful just because he’s some great promoter. He was just lucky to hit the jackpot with Josh. His CV before and after Josh showed that.

              So why do people act like he’s some special promoter?
              Well he doesn't have a CV after Joshua because he's still promoting Joshua now.

              Before Joshua was huge he was already a very successful promoter. He promoted a record crowd at Wembley when Joshua only had a couple of fights under his belt.

              And, yes, Joshua was destined for titles. But there's a difference between being a good boxer and being a massive draw. His promotion made him the huge draw that he is.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Toffee
                So he's not responsible for any success by any fighter, but entirely responsible for Joshua's sole loss?

                You wouldn't happen to have an agenda would you?
                Is he the one getting punched in the face?

                He forced the dumb late replacement even when he was told that wasn't the right matchup to make on such a short notice. There's a reason why Josh said he's going to start following his instincts and not let promoters take total control because they're only there for what they can gain monetarily. And there's a reason why Chisora said Hearn would sell his mum if the money is right.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Toffee
                  So he's not responsible for any success by any fighter, but entirely responsible for Joshua's sole loss?

                  You wouldn't happen to have an agenda would you?
                  Pahahaha ridiculous thread

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Toffee
                    Well he doesn't have a CV after Joshua because he's still promoting Joshua now.

                    Before Joshua was huge he was already a very successful promoter. He promoted a record crowd at Wembley when Joshua only had a couple of fights under his belt.

                    And, yes, Joshua was destined for titles. But there's a difference between being a good boxer and being a massive draw. His promotion made him the huge draw that he is.
                    No his promotion didn't make him a huge draw. Josh was a draw before Hearn and if he had turned pro under any promoter and go on the KO spree he was on, he would've been as huge as he's now.

                    Hearn wasn't that successful before Josh. Matchroom was actually trying to drop boxing and focus on other sports. Don't rewrite history. facts are there and Barry Hearn said it himself.

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                      #20
                      Name one star Hearn created before and after Josh.

                      Still waiting for you Hearn fan boys to name one.

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