Wilder was on his way to surpassing Wlad

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  • MoneyKasha
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    #21
    Originally posted by chirorickyp
    Wlad was humiliated by Corrie Sanders almost as bad as the Joshua shalaking by Ruiz. He wanted no part of Sanders again. He was a one dimensional grab hold jab and right hand. Fought poor opposition perhaps worse than Wilder. He ruined the heavyweight division with his safe style against nothing opponents. Wilder is a warrior who goes for gold Vlad put us to sleep and turned people off to boxing to the point that no one in the US covered that crap. I'm glad he's gone. Vitali on the other hand is one of the most underatted fighters. Lost few rounds in his entire career and was far superior to his brother.
    lol at worse than Wilder

    Throughout his career, Wladimir defeated 23 boxers for the world heavyweight championship, breaking an all-time record that belonged to Joe Louis. Klitschko holds several historical records, including the longest combined world championship reign in heavyweight history at 4,383 days; the most wins in world title bouts in the international expansion heavyweight history at 25; the most wins in unified title bouts and the longest unified championship reign in professional boxing history at 15 title bouts and 14 consecutive defenses respectively; and has the second most total successful title defenses of any heavyweight boxer with 23 (including his first reign as WBO champion), behind Joe Louis (25) and ahead of Larry Holmes (20) and Muhammad Ali (19). Klitschko also holds the record for the most wins and defenses of the unified/undisputed world championship across professional boxing and MMA.[citation needed] Klitschko fought in 29 heavyweight title fights, more than any heavyweight champion in the sport's history.

    Klitschko also holds the record of having defeated the most boxers with an undefeated record, at 11,[clarification needed] and defeated 11 current or former world champions throughout his career. These eleven included Chris Byrd (twice), Francois Botha, Ray Mercer, Lamon Brewster, Samuel Peter (twice), Sultan Ibragimov, Hasim Rahman, Ruslan Chagaev, David Haye, Jean-Marc Mormeck, and Alexander Povetkin. On top of this, he defeated other top heavyweights who did not hold titles but were nonetheless ranked within the top ten by BoxRec during his 2000-2003 and 2006-2015 reigns: Jameel McCline, Tony Thompson (twice), Eddie Chambers, and Kubrat Pulev.[200]

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    • LoadedWraps
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      #22
      Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
      Wilder still has a chance to add to his legacy!

      Honestly if he would’ve stopped Fury while he was the favorite, no one would care and said it was a lucky punch or that Fury changing trainers was the reason Wilder won!

      Now, that Wilder lost in the way he did and with Fury looking the best he’s ever had and him being the number 1 heavyweight in the world and with Wilder being a significant underdog in the trilogy, a win for Wilder now would definitely give him more credibility since his back is against the wall against all odds!

      Coming back from crushing defeats and winning against all odds is what boxing is all about and is what makes the heart of a world champion!

      Wlad did it
      Tyson did it
      Holyfield did it
      Ali did it
      Foreman did it
      And so many others in different eras and weight classes!
      But will Wilder do it?

      Can Wilder slay the dragon, kill the lion, tame the beast? Can Wilder silence the doubters, haters, and skeptics? Can Wilder take Fury to deep, turbulent, stormy waters and drown him with sledgehammer fists in a hellacious war for the ages?

      Where would you rank Wilder all time if he beats the fight out of Fury in a barn burner?

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      • NYG
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        #23
        Fury destroying Wilder was the worst thing to happen to this forum. People are flipping out

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        • Squ□redCircle34
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          #24
          Originally posted by LoadedWraps
          But will Wilder do it?

          Can Wilder slay the dragon, kill the lion, tame the beast? Can Wilder silence the doubters, haters, and skeptics? Can Wilder take Fury to deep, turbulent, stormy waters and drown him with sledgehammer fists in a hellacious war for the ages?

          Where would you rank Wilder all time if he beats the fight out of Fury in a barn burner?
          He absolutely can come back, it’s not impossible!

          Whenever have you seen Fury fight dirty like that?

          He did what he had to do to win but he’s never fought that dirty against anyone, that tells me how dangerous Wilder is!

          I wouldn’t rank Wilder anywhere near the top 40 or even 50 but he definitely would be somewhere in the top 65’ish or so and if he beats Fury again and then go on to beat AJ and beat some of the upcoming
          Guys, he would be in my top 40 all time which means he’s a big overachiever considering how late he started boxing!

          I gotta go with the underdog, Wilder is in unfamiliar territory as a pro but I think he has more than a punchers chances than people believe!

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          • Jubei
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            #25
            Do not post again, you are embarrassing yourself.

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              #26
              Originally posted by emceetns
              I understand what you're saying and people forget that Wilder was set to face Alexander Povetkin in 2016 before Povetkin failed a drug test. As for resumes to this point, i think that Wilder's and Fury's are more top-heavy whereas Joshua has beaten more top-10 guys without facing the absolute cream of the crop (Fury, Wilder). As for Wlad, i think he also came along in an awkward "in-between" era. After the 90's guys (Lennox, Holyfield, Foreman, Tyson) but before Fury, Wilder, and Joshua. He fought and lost to Fury and Wilder of course but a prime Wlad would have done better and possibly won those fights, especially against AJ.
              Not sure how you could place Wilder's resume above Joshuas. He was gifted a draw and got battered in the rematch against the only real top tier guy he faced, so I mean its true technically he has faced a better single opponent than Joshua, but a gifted draw and battering doesn't provide much credit.

              Resume for me is not just who you face, it is who you beat.
              Who is Wilder's best win, Ortiz? You call that a legacy?

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              • emceetns
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                #27
                Originally posted by andocom
                Not sure how you could place Wilder's resume above Joshuas. He was gifted a draw and got battered in the rematch against the only real top tier guy he faced, so I mean its true technically he has faced a better single opponent than Joshua, but a gifted draw and battering doesn't provide much credit.

                Resume for me is not just who you face, it is who you beat.
                Who is Wilder's best win, Ortiz? You call that a legacy?
                I actually place Joshua's resume above Wilder and Fury's because he has beaten more top-10 guys. I said Fury and Wilder's resumes are more top-heavy because they have fought each other but many top opponents besides that.

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                  #28
                  wlad ruled the heavyweight division for 10 years and wilder had just broken out of prospect territory

                  Wlad's resume only has a few "flagship" names but that's largely due to the fact that he gave up and comers title shots as soon as they were eligible. He rarely let anything "marinade".

                  That's what pov hate pulev etc have in common... They weren't so much lightyears above the rest of his competition, but they all stalled the fight and talked ****.
                  Last edited by ////; 03-04-2020, 07:21 AM.

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                  • DaNeutral.
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                    #29
                    Lol his best wind are ortiz and stiverne and he lost to the 1st and only top rated fighter he faced. Infact he got a real pasting off the only top rated fighter he's faced.

                    No wonder wilder fans have bee pumping Luis ortiz as some boogeyman.

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                    • ChickenTikka
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                      #30
                      Don't worry Wilder fans, a decade down the line when you put things in perspective, you'll realize how over hyped Wilder was. He's not your American heavyweight savior you desired.

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