Comments Thread For: Mike Tyson Reacts To Wilder's Prediction of Beating Him

[Newraider]

Mr. Mike Tyson

I almost got to meet Mr, Mike Tyson, in Phoenix. I was in the same room as were at least 60 other people. I wished I could gave talked to him but I defeated the thought. Security are not letting me get near him. I was just ending a rough patch And I wanted to warn him dont get trapped. Its laughable now. Me trying to advise a heavyweight champion about a battle. I wanted to ask how-to get the determination the mental strength needed. How does he win before he steps into the ring. Its not even a fight, Mike has already won, He's bent the laws of nature, loked his mind on the outcome. There are no escapes, no excuses. Now time has to catch up to him.
The room temperature rose when Mr. MikeTyson walked in. Not small, about 800sqft. That happens in Phoenix sometimes when at occupancy the AC system has to catch up. Sure, thats what it was..the air conditioning.

[P4Pdunny]

Good response from Mike.

[SinderellaMan]

Mike Tyson is 5'11" Everybody towered over him, Wilder wouldn't have a clue how to deal with him.

I grew up watching Tyson.
I remember when Punch Out was released.
Up, down, up down left right left right B A B A start.
The code to go straight to Iron Mike.

[TMLT87]

Mike would be an absolute nightmare stylistic match up for Wilder. The height difference wouldnt matter because Wilder is hardly a master at fighting long plus his inside work is poor. Imagine the head movement of Tyson vs Wilders telegraphed punches, then imagine what Mike does when he closes distance and can start getting at Wilder with body shots.

[Get em up]

Tyson responded the way he should have imo now whether Wilder beats Tyson or that version of Tyson is all opinion but I would definitely pay to see it if it was possible

[NachoMan]

Tyson was very humble with his answer and I too think Wilder beats him. The size disparity is just too much, and not only size but also power and athleticism. I didn’t like the way Tyson looked vs taller opponents that had pop like Douglas and Lennox. Now don’t get me wrong, I can see Tyson beating some guys like AJ, who was crushed by Ruiz. And prime Tyson could definitely do a lot of damage and KO to Parker, Ortiz, Povetkin, Whyte, Ruiz.

I think Fury’s style is all wrong for Tyson. But then the other side of me remembers a smaller Cunningham coming up from CW and knocked down Fury, but lost by TKO in what I felt was a foul punch. And I can’t blame Fury for going down hard vs Wilder because most of his opponents do.

I’d also like to think prime Tyson is all wrong for Wlad and his cautious, jabbing style and weak chin. But I do give Wlad a shot due to size disparity and ability to avoid punches from smaller/shorter opponents in his prime.

All in all, Tyson was an overachiever for sure for his size and height. If Tyson was a CW, he would’ve been the GOAT CW and likely retire undefeated. I think that when Tyson started facing higher skilled, similarly aged, taller fighters, he went downhill.

TBF, when talking about good/great heavyweights facing eachother, it is better to match them in height and weight. So Tyson vs Marciano, for example, is a better fantasy fight imo, due to their similar size. When you talk about HW’s today, you’re talking about giants, where 6’3” is now considered on the “shorter” side. Ali was 6’3” and Foremans is 6’4”, and now they would be dwarfed by the top 3 fighters. So it’s not fair to match Tyson vs them.

Tyson vs:

Marciano
Frazier
Samuel Peter
Tunney
Chris Byrd
Ezzard Charles
Toney
Tua
Liston
Walcott
Joe Louis
Schmeling
Patterson (6’3” but weighed less than 200lbs)

And so on...these are better matches imo because these fighters where from an era where 6’ was a good height for a HW. And I give Tyson a really good shot of going through that lineup undefeated.

TL;DR: There’s weight classes for a reason. HW’s today do not weigh like they did 100, 50, 30, or even 15 years ago. When Wlad was dominating he was dominating with his size, height, and reach. Lewis was gone, Vitali was gone, so Wlad had the crown all to himself with no tall, skilled fighters around, and heavy punchers were just too short. HW’s of the past would be light heavyweights and cruiserweights today. Especially the one’s that weight 180-190lbs ON FIGHT NIGHT.

Good write up. I don't think its fair to judge Tyson's level based on his performance against Lewis though. That fight was 15 years after Tyson's prime. Nostalgic fans were hoping for a last hurrah from Mike, but most realistic fans had Lewis as a big favorite. Had these guys fought in the 80's though, its a whole different fight. Their primes didn't quite match up though. Had they fought during their respective primes, I think this fight is a pick'em, despite Lewis' enormous physical advantages.

[Adam Cairns]

Not to mention that Tyson took drugs and drank and partied all night, and still knocked big men out in devastating fashion, and Tyson was fighting 3 times a month at some points in his career, not 2 times per year.

[Mindgames]

Actually, without going too far I think that someone like Mike "Hercules" Weaver would stand a good chance of knocking Wilder out.

But you have to forgive the younger fans. One who grows up listening to Justin Timberlake can't probably appreciate the value of Led Zeppelin, if you get my point.

Very true, ive had these conversations before, and alot of them didn't know that guys like Weaver and Ruddock knocked good fighters completely cold, guys who were likely better than anyone Wilders ever beaten.

[-Kev-]

Good write up. I don't think its fair to judge Tyson's level based on his performance against Lewis though. That fight was 15 years after Tyson's prime. Nostalgic fans were hoping for a last hurrah from Mike, but most realistic fans had Lewis as a big favorite. Had these guys fought in the 80's though, its a whole different fight. Their primes didn't quite match up though. Had they fought during their respective primes, I think this fight is a pick'em, despite Lewis' enormous physical advantages.

I agree that Tyson was old and past prime vs Lewis, but I don’t think he was 15 years past prime. If he was, that means 1987 was his prime. Meaning he went green-prime-past prime in a matter of 2-3 years. And that’s just not plausible. It’s convenient for fantasy fights, but not realistic. I mean he was only 30 vs Holyfield. Holyfield was 34 and Lewis was 37 when they fought Tyson. So they were definitely old and past prime.

[joseph5620]

I think Mike Tyson can defeat him now in all honesty .

Disastrous match up even if he’s 53 it’s not far of from you know who, who had Wilder in trouble and Mikes counter punching would really dent Wilder badly .

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That just makes you a clueless idiot. In Tyson's last fight he quit against Kevin McBride. An unranked and terrible fighter.