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  • joseph5620
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    #161
    Originally posted by strykr619
    Um Tyson was KOing guys who were 5-6 inches taller them him regularly. Wilder is a toothpick. Wlad wouldn't have the Chin to service, if you said Vitali that's a different story.
    No he wasn't. Tony Tucker, Mitch Green, James Smith, Buster Douglas were all 6-4, 6-5 and ranked. All easily went the distance with Tyson or beat him. Tyson was not routinely knocking top tall fighters out. That's a myth. He actually struggled with all of them.

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      #162
      Originally posted by joseph5620
      That just makes you a clueless idiot. In Tyson's last fight he quit against Kevin McBride. An unranked and terrible fighter.
      Only an Idiot thinks an ATG is going to take a fight with Wilder lightly, Wilder sImply wouldn’t defeat a motivated straight head Mike Tyson ,he simply doesn’t have the style to defeat Tyson ,maybe if Mike was 55 ?

      I destroyed you on the last thread I guess we’ll continue on here ? Ha

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        #163
        Originally posted by markther
        Big props to Mike for taking the high road. But Wilder isn’t beating “PRIME” Tyson from 1986. Remember Wilder specifically said the 86 version and not the version Lennox faced years later.

        First of all, Mike had a great head and upper body movement and footwork along with his powerful punches and punched in veracious combinations before he was upset by Buster Douglas because he didn’t train that hard, had some clowns in his corner, and took Buster very lightly. But that 86 version of Tyson would have swarmed Wilder’s ass as soon as the bell rung. There was no waiting around. And he was seek and destroy every single round. For those that say Bonecrusher Smith and Tony Tucker went the distance and if Wilder went the distance he would have eventually caught Mike with the right hand, I say those 2 guys had a strategy to not get knocked out. Wilder doesn’t fight that way. He fights to get the knock out also which would play into the aggressive destroy style of the 86 version of Tyson.
        Agreed. The younger Tyson was always in the gym with Kevin Rooney had no championships and was focused. He wasn't smoking weed or getting high before fights. This version of Tyson who was training with Rooney regularly, was not aligned with Don King and spent a considerable amount of time polishing his style would have decapitated Wilder. Once Rooney left after the Spinks fight Tyson was still a tough dude in the ring but he would still beat any top heavyweight.
        At any age up to 35 years old if he had Kevin Rooney training him he would have beaten Wilder. People have to remember that Wilder started fighting at 19 years old as a way to take care of his daughter. Tyson started fighting at 13 years old under D Mato and Teddy Atlas. Wilder's style of fighting reflects the way he fights today because he never developed his skills at an early age like Tyson. Wilder knows deep down that he could not beat the version of Tyson training with Kevin Rooney.

        Like other people said Ali, Lewis, Bowe (Eddie Futch trained), both Klitscho's and Larry Holmes would have easily beat Wilder.

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        • Zonkmeister
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          #164
          Stylistically, Iron Mike would be living hell for Deontay and pretty much any other of the towering heavies of today. Tyson of 86' would get in close hard and fast (and he had great defense going in) and then get to work. I don't see it going too well for Wilder; the only way to get Mike off of you at the time was to try to press him or perhaps even push him back so that he'd go off balance, and Wilder doesn't really do that to the required extent, I think.

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            #165
            Originally posted by Oshio
            No way Wilder would be top 5 in any era apart from this. Swinging windmill in the best is suicide!
            This is true.

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              #166
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              I agree that Tyson was old and past prime vs Lewis, but I don’t think he was 15 years past prime. If he was, that means 1987 was his prime. Meaning he went green-prime-past prime in a matter of 2-3 years. And that’s just not plausible. It’s convenient for fantasy fights, but not realistic. I mean he was only 30 vs Holyfield. Holyfield was 34 and Lewis was 37 when they fought Tyson. So they were definitely old and past prime.
              I actually do think most fighters (all athletes really) have a fairly short window in which they perform at their peak level. I think many fans would agree that Tyson, given that his style relied so much on his speed and reflexes, did truly have a prime that lasted about 3 years. Tyson's style was never going to allow him to compete well with other greats into his mid-30s. Lewis relied on size and a long jab, so, of course, he was built for greater longevity.
              Last edited by NachoMan; 02-17-2020, 02:33 PM.

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                #167
                Originally posted by Zonkmeister
                Stylistically, Iron Mike would be living hell for Deontay and pretty much any other of the towering heavies of today. Tyson of 86' would get in close hard and fast (and he had great defense going in) and then get to work. I don't see it going too well for Wilder; the only way to get Mike off of you at the time was to try to press him or perhaps even push him back so that he'd go off balance, and Wilder doesn't really do that to the required extent, I think.
                Most of the tall guys hung on for their life, Bone Crusher was nearly DQ”d and Tucker held on as well . These guys however didn’t press Tyson for a knockout ,if Wilder does that and he would need to he gets knocked out ,the other option as stated here is clinch and hope for the best and Wilder has not shown any of that savvy aspect doing that .

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by Angeljuice
                  Utter nonsense. Tyson was terrifying, most of his opponents were beaten before they got in the ring. He was a wild animal....Tyson in his prime was a terrifying, inhuman monster that seemed unstoppable....
                  It's hard for alot of fans who weren't around and cognizant during Tyson's prime to understand the above statement and the absolute terror Mike put into opponents. People make a big deal about Curtis Harper's antics with Efe Ajagba but Mike was essentially doing the same to every opponent at every skill level during his terror reign. Wilder may be one of the hardest hitters but he doesn't inspire the fear
                  of violence that Tyson put into every opponent during that stretch.

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                  • megas30
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                    I was never a fan of Mike Tyson, but prime Mike beats Wilder inside 4-5 rounds. Past prime Mike ( after prison) still stops Wilder, probably in 10-11th round.

                    Wilder is a bum and he would stand zero chance against Mike.
                    Past prime Mike is not good after 4 rounds.

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                    • Angeljuice
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by SinderellaMan
                      I grew up watching Tyson.
                      I remember when Punch Out was released.
                      Up, down, up down left right left right B A B A start.
                      The code to go straight to Iron Mike.
                      Cool game (I ****** at it though). Video games seemed so amazing back then.

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