Loma beats a guy moving up 2 divisions, gets called #1 P4P. Canelo moves up 2........
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So Bivol is considered a top light heavyweight when his best win is Pascal.Lomachenko is considered by many to be number one p4p because he’s dominated all of his competition and is a three division champion, not because he beat Rigodeaux.
While the Jacobs fight was at 160, Canelo fought at super middleweight in 2 of his 5 fights prior to Kovalev. So that’s moving up one division.
No one in their right mind would consider Canelo a super middleweight but it’s somehow sane to call him a super middleweight champion?
Bivol’s best win is looking like Jean Pascal at this point. I think Bivol is great, he dominates everyone. I don’t rank him over Canelo Alaverez on a pound for pound list and no one does.
Elieder Alvarez’s two best wins are probably Kovalev and Pascal. I don’t want him over Canelo Alvarez on a pound for pound list and no one does.
But Kovalev beating Alvarez who also beat Pascal didn't mean anything and kovalev wasn't a credible champion anymore. Kovalev was so washed up despite having a significant win at 175 in 2019, which was better than anything bivol did who many considered to be top 2 in the division. Canelo, a middleweight, going up to 175 and beating kovalev isn't impressive and worthy of #1 p4p status, although no one else on the list has a win on the same level.
Explain this to me
Last edited by mcdonalds; 02-08-2020, 08:45 PM.Comment
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Weight Clauses at 154Lomachenko is considered by many to be number one p4p because he’s dominated all of his competition and is a three division champion, not because he beat Rigodeaux.
While the Jacobs fight was at 160, Canelo fought at super middleweight in 2 of his 5 fights prior to Kovalev. So that’s moving up one division.
No one in their right mind would consider Canelo a super middleweight but it’s somehow sane to call him a super middleweight champion?
Bivol’s best win is looking like Jean Pascal at this point. I think Bivol is great, he dominates everyone. I don’t rank him over Canelo Alaverez on a pound for pound list and no one does.
Elieder Alvarez’s two best wins are probably Kovalev and Pascal. I don’t want him over Canelo Alvarez on a pound for pound list and no one does.
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Wait, are you suggesting that Canelo and Loma's respective p4p contention doesn't stem entirely from one factor (beating an opponent two divisions north) in isolation? And that a 10 year old of average intelligence could see past this bull**** false premise? Dunno...seems like a real reach manLomachenko is considered by many to be number one p4p because he’s dominated all of his competition and is a three division champion, not because he beat Rigodeaux.
While the Jacobs fight was at 160, Canelo fought at super middleweight in 2 of his 5 fights prior to Kovalev. So that’s moving up one division.
No one in their right mind would consider Canelo a super middleweight but it’s somehow sane to call him a super middleweight champion?
Bivol’s best win is looking like Jean Pascal at this point. I think Bivol is great, he dominates everyone. I don’t rank him over Canelo Alaverez on a pound for pound list and no one does.
Elieder Alvarez’s two best wins are probably Kovalev and Pascal. I don’t want him over Canelo Alvarez on a pound for pound list and no one does.Comment
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What win on Loma's resume is as good as Canelo jumping up 2 divisions and beating Kovalev?Wait, are you suggesting that Canelo and Loma's respective p4p contention doesn't stem entirely from one factor (beating an opponent two divisions north) in isolation? And that a 10 year old of average intelligence could see past this bull**** false premise? Dunno...seems like a real reach man
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