Comments Thread For: Hearn: I Just Couldn't Sign Jarrell Miller After Stone-Cold Cheating

[kafkod]

The last I checked VADA is not a governing body like the BBBoC and UKAD. It has no rules, regulations, constitution, jurisdiction or authority to sanction fighters.

The VADA testing protocol is not mandatory and can be refused by fighters if they so choose or if it's not written in the contract. It's just a voluntary mutual agreement between two fighters to get randomly tested for PEDS before a bout.

Jarrell Miller could have easily refused the VADA testing agency if he wanted to. He just wouldn't have gotten his opportunity to fight AJ if he had.

Wow ... so if fighters fail VADA tests in the US they don't get punished at all?

[SUBZER0ED]

Fat Baby is lucky to be signed by anyone. To fail a drug test for one substance is bad enough. But to fail for three substances at the same time? that's some crazy, desperate shit.

[DaNeutral.]

Was happy to keep Whyte on though.

And before anyone jumps on this, I'm not talking about the sample v Rivas.

Then what the fkk are you talking about?

[Dat]

And yet he has the cheater Whyte in his stable. This Hearn is really a snake you can’t trust.

[OnlytheTruth]

Whyte was punished for that, a 2 year ban. Where's Miller's punishment?

OK, where to start, Whyte served a two year ban (correctly) for an energy drink before he signed with Hearn.

Miller got off (no ban) for three different major PEDs.

Hearns just being realistic and making his own point, same here I want Miller to apologise , or serve a proper ban , he won't he'll be back soon and I'm sure I'll watch (and feel bad about it).

In boxing drug-taking terms Miller was an all-time low.

Whyte bought an energy drink over the counter from a supplement store without realising that one of the ingredients had recently been put on the banned list. He served a 2 year ban for that mistake.

There is no comparison between that and what Jarrell Miller did.

Whyte took a pre workout supplement that had a banned substance in it, admitted to it and got a 1 or 2 year ban.

It’s hardly the same as getting caught for 3 different injected drugs on 3 occasions and trying to deny it

Not defending Miller at all, nor am I saying that Whyte hasn't served his punishment. What I'm saying is that Hearn is sounding like a hypocrite when he opens his mouth about this shit considering he is aligned with the likes of Whyte, Povetkin, Hughie Fury, BJS etc.

Just because Miller signed with TR, he needs to open his mouth on something that leaves him wide open. It just annoys me.

[kafkod]

Not defending Miller at all, nor am I saying that Whyte hasn't served his punishment. What I'm saying is that Hearn is sounding like a hypocrite when he opens his mouth about this shit considering he is aligned with the likes of Whyte, Povetkin, Hughie Fury, BJS etc.

Just because Miller signed with TR, he needs to open his mouth on something that leaves him wide open. It just annoys me.

BJS didn't break any WADA rules, which is why he was never charged with any PED offence.

Hughie Fury never got the chance to have his case investigated because UKAD did a deal with Team Fury to avoid being sued for breaking their own rules by waiting 15 months before bringing charges.

Whyte, Povetkin, Hughie, BJS were not Matchroom fighters when their PED cases happened. Miller cheated while signed with Matchroom, and lied to Eddie himself about it. And he cheated on AJ, who is a personal friend of Eddie's.

Miller's abuse was more hardcore and cynical than any of the others. Three different PEDs in one camp, including injecting himself in the ass with roids.

[champion4ever]

Wow ... so if fighters fail VADA tests in the US they don't get punished at all?

Technically speaking they cannot because they are not like WADA, UKAD or USADA which are global, regional and national testing agencies. So the answer to your question is no.

However, they can make recommendations to the governing bodies based on their findings that a boxer tested dirty for doping and then it's up to the discretion of the governing bodies or state commissions to decide whether or not they are going to suspend or grant a particular fighter a license.

Keep in mind, that VADA is a solely independent testing agency that is agreed upon by the fighters themselves which is not mandatory and is separate from any other governing body. It's purely voluntary.

Therefore, they have no jurisdiction, control or power over the fighters at all. They don't the authority to grant boxers licenses to fight. Therefore, they cannot sanction them from not fighting.

However, in the U.S. For example, The NYSAC and the NSAC can. They do have have the authority to punish fighters because they have the jurisdiction to grant them licenses to box.

Therefore, the boxers are subject to their drug testing protocol; Like the post fight urine tests and any other rules, regulations that is found applicable to their laws.

[kafkod]

Some people are calling Hearn a hypocrite for not signing Jarrell Miller.

The same people would call Hearn a hypocrite if he did sign Miller.

Just thought I'd point that out.

[OnlytheTruth]

Whyte, Povetkin, Hughie, BJS were not Matchroom fighters when their PED cases happened.

This is exactly what I am getting at. Hearn won't re-sign Miller because of the PED offences but he's happy to sign the others because it benefits him. Surely you can see the hypocrisy in that!?

Again, not defending any PED user here, I think bans should be much much harsher, if not career-ending.

[OnlytheTruth]

Some people are calling Hearn a hypocrite for not signing Jarrell Miller.

The same people would call Hearn a hypocrite if he did sign Miller.

Just thought I'd point that out.

Yeah, good point. He can't really win with Miller.