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  • Jkp
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    #131
    Originally posted by theface07
    The testing was by VADA and VADA cleared Whyte. This is consistent with a later finding of trace amounts of a banned substance from Whyte's sample.
    Miller would likely not have been cleared to fight by any remotely competent testing agency due to the extreme nature of his positive test results and thus the inherent danger posed to his opponent in the ring.
    Vada didn't clear him at all, they have no jurisdiction to overrule ukad findings. That's stretching the truth a lot. Eddie just used then as part of his cover story for the gullible fan boys.

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    • Chinned
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      #132
      Originally posted by Jkp
      Vada didn't clear him at all, they have no jurisdiction to overrule ukad findings. That's stretching the truth a lot. Eddie just used then as part of his cover story for the gullible fan boys.
      He passed Vada before and after.

      Let's be honest many people had him guilty from day 1 and will never hear anything else and many others will take what UKAD/VADA etc say as gospel, ignoring that this sport is full of cheats.

      The reality is neither you, me or anyone else here has a single clue, and most aren't really prepared to be objective simply because they hate DW (or Hearn), or support him.

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        #133
        Originally posted by Chinned
        He passed Vada before and after.

        Let's be honest many people had him guilty from day 1 and will never hear anything else and many others will take what UKAD/VADA etc say as gospel, ignoring that this sport is full of cheats.

        The reality is neither you, me or anyone else here has a single clue, and most aren't really prepared to be objective simply because they hate DW (or Hearn), or support him.
        No. I had him guilty when they found dianabol in his sample.

        A passed test previously at a different time is irrelevant.

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          #134
          Originally posted by theface07
          The testing was by VADA and VADA cleared Whyte. This is consistent with a later finding of trace amounts of a banned substance from Whyte's sample.
          Miller would likely not have been cleared to fight by any remotely competent testing agency due to the extreme nature of his positive test results and thus the inherent danger posed to his opponent in the ring.
          Whyte was micro dosing steroids.
          Very very obvious...

          Testosterone microdoses may escape regulators’ radar because they only stay in the system for the duration of an event.

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          • Jkp
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            #135
            Originally posted by GlassJoey
            Of course, all top athletes carry a bottle of baby wee everywhere they go to pass the tests.

            My theory is that Al Harmon ate the Dianabol, ****** Dillian off before the fight and contaminated his willy
            Whyte was microdosing. And got caught by testers..

            It's all explained here... https://www.businessinsider.com/dopi...teroids-2018-2

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              #136
              Originally posted by Jkp
              no need to question UKAD reliability they are proven incompetent and incapable, and toothless when it comes to enforcing any findings.

              Read article below. Mind blowing how useless they are. Very obvious why they are AJs preferred tester.

              http://www.steroids.info/2012/07/18/...for-six-years/
              Wow!!

              Thanks.

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                #137
                Originally posted by Jkp
                Whyte was microdosing. And got caught by testers..

                It's all explained here... https://www.businessinsider.com/dopi...teroids-2018-2
                That article made me less convinced. I find it more likely that Whyte accidentally doped (and used a corrupt system to get away with it) than intentionally microdosed a drug during camp. It was during camp when he knew he’d be vada tested. If they can pick up contaminated beef trace levels then microdosing makes no sense. VADA tests are known to be more stringent than Olympic (wada/ukad) tests. I can’t say whether that is a fact or not because I’ve never studied their testing procedures.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Jkp
                  no need to question UKAD reliability they are proven incompetent and incapable, and toothless when it comes to enforcing any findings.

                  Read article below. Mind blowing how useless they are. Very obvious why they are AJs preferred tester.

                  http://www.steroids.info/2012/07/18/...for-six-years/
                  UKAD are corrupt which is why they allow TUEs for all the cyclists and Dillian gets a fight day hearing whereas average Joe without a promoter would have got a 4 year ban. It doesn’t mean Whyte intentionally took it.

                  I think AJ employs VADA in every fight (or at least claims to). VADA helped to clear Dillian. I feel like VADA is just a protection racket for top fighters

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by GlassJoey
                    That article made me less convinced. I find it more likely that Whyte accidentally doped (and used a corrupt system to get away with it) than intentionally microdosed a drug during camp. It was during camp when he knew he’d be vada tested. If they can pick up contaminated beef trace levels then microdosing makes no sense. VADA tests are known to be more stringent than Olympic (wada/ukad) tests. I can’t say whether that is a fact or not because I’ve never studied their testing procedures.
                    Almost all athletes who get caught know they will be tested. That doesnt stop them from taking PEDS, so they obviously have a process for beating the testers. The truth is sometimes the measures/process they use to beat the testers fail.

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by GlassJoey
                      UKAD are corrupt which is why they allow TUEs for all the cyclists and Dillian gets a fight day hearing whereas average Joe without a promoter would have got a 4 year ban. It doesn’t mean Whyte intentionally took it.

                      I think AJ employs VADA in every fight (or at least claims to). VADA helped to clear Dillian. I feel like VADA is just a protection racket for top fighters
                      AJ only does vada a few weeks prior to his fights. Just enough time to sneak in his steroid cycle while on his overseas holidays.

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