Did Floyd beat anyone at their best in the last ten years?

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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #61
    That's subjective. What is not is that he beat them and they were highly rated. Including a P4P #2 and #3.

    Mayweather wasn't at his best and he didn't lose.
    Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 12-27-2019, 11:07 AM.

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    • Richard
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      #62
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      That's subjective. What is not is that he beat them and they were highly rated. Including a P4P #2 and #3.
      Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I always think the best mentally and physically always rise to the top😉

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      • PRINCEKOOL
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        #63
        Did any of his opponents face him at his peak? He beat Canelo Alvarez, when many people where picking him to beat Floyd Mayweather 'Destoryed him, 12-0/12-1'.

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          #64
          Originally posted by KTFOKING
          I love this talk of "at their best" and then the opponent's "best weight class." So let me ask you, was beating Bradley "at his best" a better win for Pacquiao than Floyd beating Pacquiao? After all, Pacquiao pretty much dominated Bradley before and after the Floyd fights.

          Pacquiao was close to his best when they faced off and four years later is still beating top WWs. He was P4P #2 when Floyd beat him. Canelo was in top the 10 P4P, Mosley was #3 P4P coming off the Margarito destruction.

          Floyd clearly beat two other top candidates for FOTD and that gives him the edge. He is going to rightfully win the award on most publications and sites.
          This is a great post as well.

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          • KTFOKING
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            #65
            Originally posted by travestyny
            This is a great post as well.
            It's a great cop out and only used against him. Even when he beat Hatton, it was, "well, he didn't beat Hatton at 140 which was his best weight class!" Um, Floyd's best weight class was at 130, so if anyone beat him at 147, would anyone actually say that they didn't beat Floyd at his best weight class? Absolutely not!

            There is no need to overthink this. Pacquiao had a great run, as did Ward/Canelo/etc, but Floyd stands alone with his two big wins. People forget, Floyd looked MUCH more vulnerable heading into the Pacquiao fight after his Maidana performances than Pacquiao did dominating both Bradley/Algieri. Seriously, how many rounds did Pacquiao actually lose in those two fights? Two rounds? Maybe three? There was a reason he was still P4P #2 in the world.

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              #66
              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              It's a great cop out and only used against him. Even when he beat Hatton, it was, "well, he didn't beat Hatton at 140 which was his best weight class!" Um, Floyd's best weight class was at 130, so if anyone beat him at 147, would anyone actually say that they didn't beat Floyd at his best weight class? Absolutely not!

              There is no need to overthink this. Pacquiao had a great run, as did Ward/Canelo/etc, but Floyd stands alone with his two big wins. People forget, Floyd looked MUCH more vulnerable heading into the Pacquiao fight after his Maidana performances than Pacquiao did dominating both Bradley/Algieri. Seriously, how many rounds did Pacquiao actually lose in those two fights? Two rounds? Maybe three? There was a reason he was still P4P #2 in the world.
              The fact that his critics are forced to hold him to a different standard helps to prove his greatness, in my opinion.

              For example, had Pacquiao beaten Mayweather, they wouldn't say Mayweather was past his prime. They would say that makes Pacquaio the greatest of this generation.

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              • pillowfists98
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                #67
                Maidana I think was at his best when Floyd beat him. People saying Canelo are just wrong. Canelo has improved a lot since 2013. Plus it was at a catchweight.

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                • WholeSoul75
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                  #68
                  Floyd's excessive weirdness and in the ring unnecessary clinching instead of engaging with no rematch worth millions tells the story..didn't want to experience another Rd 4 with a full training camp from pac. All good

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                  • Lomadeaux
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                    #69
                    The first Castillo fight was the most impressive I've seen Floyd IMO. I believe it was the 10th/11th round when he started to stand toe-to-toe with him. It was such credit to him for boxing and moving the whole night and for Roger to tell him he had to stand in front of him in order to win.

                    THAT is what a professional is. He's able to do anything to get something done. Similar to a painter, a plumber, a doctor... you name it. He may not come across certain tough situations in his profession, but when he does he's able to adjust because of his experience and know-how.

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                    • techliam
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      Canelo had been in 6 world championship fights when he fought Floyd, even though he was very young. As a comparison, Trinidad gets full credit for beating Vargas, who was also 23 and had been in 6 world championship fights. He had half as many pro fights as Canelo had.

                      I just think its is interesting how the perception of a "young fighter" is impacted by who he loses to. Canelo is judged as "green" while Vargas is judged as "prime".
                      Ok, but where did I mention Vargas at all?

                      Pretty big assumption there

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