Did Floyd beat anyone at their best in the last ten years?

[dibzvincent143]

Looking over his resume of the last decade, is there one elite level fighter, champion or former champion, who was at their very best when they fought him?

Guerrero maybe was at his best lol

Other opponents, he fought them at a perfect time. His own time. Floyd just couldn’t pressured by fans to fight anyone at the time it is most relevant...

Only the Nelo fight happened at the perfect time.. the only issue was the catchweight. Had he fought marquez at 144.. and Nelo ar 154, then full credit should be given.

Pac fight was 6 years too late, already planked and couldn’t KO algerias of the world.. the diff was night and day.

[BoomBapTrap]

No, he did not.

Canelo came way too early.
PAC way too late.
Floyd knew he would’ve lost fighting each in their prime.

[GhostofDempsey]

You know I was looking at Mannys resume over the Decade and lol I really did, if it was a Canoe it would sink in 10ft its that full off holes.

Then I seen 4 loses and knocked out cold and thought he cant win it with this weak resume, every candidate in the comp has a better decade than Manny.

This thread isn't about Manny, but feel free to start one. But at least he fought prime Bradley 3x and a prime Thurman. Got a win off a still game Marquez too. Floyd ducked Bradley and Thurman, so thanks for playing.

It isn't Floyd's duty to assure his opponents are at 100% on fight night.

It's every fighter's own responsibility to be there at 100%. If you're not, it's your problem

What has that got to do with anything? Floyd had the option to fight anyone he wanted. He chose B-rate fighters over elite level fighters.

Only Maidana,Cotto,& then there was Castillo whom he honestly lost or at best drawed with both times imho. Canelo gets shltted on for fighting 40 yr old Mosely at age 20 but Floyd fought Mosely 2 fights prior & pac fought him the fight before canelo fought him. Floyd shouldn't even be considered for fotd this decade because his best wins were before 2010. In this decade his wins were miles from being considered tbe simply because he only fought 9x in non mma opponents this decade & a drained Canelo was his best win(even though it should hold weight still it doesn't compare to nelos wins over prime fighters like jacobs/Lara/Trout,& undefeated ggg,& still a force Kovalev (kov would be favored over anyone at 160 pre canelo fight)

I wouldn't call Maidana an elite level fighter though. I think Floyd underestimated how hard that fight would be, and honestly I scored the first one for Maidana. That was a cherry-pick gone wrong. Don't forget, that was the fight he asked his fans to choose his next opponent between Maidana and Khan, most selected Khan--who had already beaten Maidana, Floyd went the other way. Cotto was coming off those Margarito and Manny beat downs, and didn't really hit his second wind until he teamed up with Freddie later on.

Guerrero maybe was at his best lol

Other opponents, he fought them at a perfect time. His own time. Floyd just couldn’t pressured by fans to fight anyone at the time it is most relevant...

Only the Nelo fight happened at the perfect time.. the only issue was the catchweight. Had he fought marquez at 144.. and Nelo ar 154, then full credit should be given.

Pac fight was 6 years too late, already planked and couldn’t KO algerias of the world.. the diff was night and day.

Canelo is a far improved fighter since then. He was only what 22? Floyd himself is protecting Tank from Loma because he says Tank is too young. Canelo hadn't fought an elite level fighter going into that fight.

JMM was not at his best either. Came up over two weight classes drinking his own urine. He wasn't the roid-monster who later KO'd Manny.

[The Big Dunn]

This thread isn't about Manny, but feel free to start one. But at least he fought prime Bradley 3x and a prime Thurman. Got a win off a still game Marquez too. Floyd ducked Bradley and Thurman, so thanks for playing.



What has that got to do with anything? Floyd had the option to fight anyone he wanted. He chose B-rate fighters over elite level fighters.



I wouldn't call Maidana an elite level fighter though. I think Floyd underestimated how hard that fight would be, and honestly I scored the first one for Maidana. That was a cherry-pick gone wrong. Don't forget, that was the fight he asked his fans to choose his next opponent between Maidana and Khan, most selected Khan--who had already beaten Maidana, Floyd went the other way. Cotto was coming off those Margarito and Manny beat downs, and didn't really hit his second wind until he teamed up with Freddie later on.




Canelo is a far improved fighter since then. He was only what 22? Floyd himself is protecting Tank from Loma because he says Tank is too young. Canelo hadn't fought an elite level fighter going into that fight.

JMM was not at his best either. Came up over two weight classes drinking his own urine. He wasn't the roid-monster who later KO'd Manny.

How did Floyd duck Bradley? Bradley decided to sign with top rank instead of taking a chance against Floyd who was the top ww.

I know you hate Floyd but geez.

[djtmal]

Looking over his resume of the last decade, is there one elite level fighter, champion or former champion, who was at their very best when they fought him?

So to answer the question direct, we are looking at a murderers row of

Guerrero
Maidana
Ortiz
McGregor

I guess you can say they were hyped up to be elite level threats to Floyd's supremacy by Mayweather promotions. For as long as the fight lasts of course.

[techliam]

I think Maidana was probably at his best, coming off the Broner win

Pacquiao is still arguably the no.1 WW now, so whilst he wasn’t at his best, that version is still better than 99% fighters best

Unlike some others here, I don’t rate the Canelo fight at the top. It’s a good win and the manner of victory was superb. But Canelo’s youth and the catchweight dampens it somewhat. I don’t think Canelo beats Floyd at any weight or age, but I can only measure reality

[Lomadeaux]

Conor McGregor but in mma. I actually thought he was outboxing Floyd until he ran out of gas.

Anyone who thought at any point in time that he'd beat Floyd just doesn't fully understand boxing.

[eco1]

the tinny Japanese guy

[The Big Dunn]

I think Maidana was probably at his best, coming off the Broner win

Pacquiao is still arguably the no.1 WW now, so whilst he wasn’t at his best, that version is still better than 99% fighters best

Unlike some others here, I don’t rate the Canelo fight at the top. It’s a good win and the manner of victory was superb. But Canelo’s youth and the catchweight dampens it somewhat. I don’t think Canelo beats Floyd at any weight or age, but I can only measure reality

Canelo had been in 6 world championship fights when he fought Floyd, even though he was very young. As a comparison, Trinidad gets full credit for beating Vargas, who was also 23 and had been in 6 world championship fights. He had half as many pro fights as Canelo had.

I just think its is interesting how the perception of a "young fighter" is impacted by who he loses to. Canelo is judged as "green" while Vargas is judged as "prime".

[travestyny]

How do we determine if a guy is at his best? Is it only age? Or is it a combination of age and experience?

In 2010 floyd beat Shane Mosley who at the time was one of the top p4p fighters in the world. In 2015 Floyd beat Manny Pacquio who was a top 2 p4p fighter in the world and 3 years younger than Floyd. In 2013 Floyd beat Canelo. A young champion who had already defeated some top tier opposition.

The only people that seem to denigrate these wins are people that never liked Floyd.

The TS and others in this thread picked these men to beat Floyd. Yet now years later they are criticizing the wins.

That isn’t logical.

Great post!