Comments Thread For: Wilder: I Didn't Get Mayweather's Support as Next Big Black Star

[GhostofDempsey]

Boo-hoo! More victim-hood from this overrated diva. He can get his pound of flesh when he goes 51-0 beating a long string of no-hopers and tomato cans.

[Bronx2245]

Bro...Do you not know the levels of just how dominant white supremacy is in Mexican culture?

Of course I do, but I'm not sure how many Mexicans do, or for that fact, I'm not sure how many African-Americans know how dominant it is in Mexico and Latin America! It's 2019! This is ridiculous! EACH ONE TEACH ONE!

Mexicans admit they're racist — if only we could

"Ten percent of Mexico is “gachupine” (gah-choo-pee-neh), which is loosely translated as “white” — an Aztec word meaning "a man wearing shoes with pins," or spurs. (There were no horses in the Western Hemisphere when the Spanish arrived, so there were no spurs.) Sixty percent of Mexico is mixed Indian and white, and 30 percent pure Amerindian.

Mexico News Daily published last year an in-depth article about recent studies conducted on Mexican racism.

No honest Mexican can deny the fact of Mexican racism; multiple studies confirm that beyond any doubt. In one, conducted by the National Institute of Statistics and Geography, the study determined that skin color directly influences how much education is achieved and what kind of employment an individual is offered.

Yet his is not the only study ever conducted in Mexico that shows that racial differences heavily influence Mexican society.

No study was needed between 1519 and 1821, when the Spanish ran Mexico with racial codes that organized the Spanish Western Hemisphere into more than a dozen different racial classifications starting with those born in Spain, the Peninsulares; they were No. 1. Their children born in the New World, the Criollos, were No. 2; No. 3 was the part-Spanish, part-Indian, the mestizo. The penultimate category was the Zamba, half-black and half-Indian. Last was the 100 percent Indian, or Indio.

The only people who could own land and conduct government affairs were in the No. 1 and No. 2 classifications; there was no voting as Spain was a monarchy, not a democracy. Governance limited to Spanish-born white men and their male children left much to be desired.

No wonder, then, that a fed-up Catholic priest, Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla, enamored with American independence and democratic government, loudly pronounced “Death to bad government, death to the gachupines!” to his parishioners at midnight, Sept. 16, 1810; the churchgoers rushed out and attacked Spanish-owned businesses and government property, starting more than 10 years of war for independence.

In retrospect, his followers included mestizos and Indians who were fed up with the overt racism imposed by the Spanish-born and their children on them and on Africans whom Spain brought to Mexico as slaves. Father Hidalgo was himself a “criollo” without a drop of Indian blood.

One view of modern Mexico is that the racial society Father Hidalgo detested still exists, though it is not official policy, as it was when Hidalgo rebelled.

In 1954, then-U.S. Chief Justice Earl Warren and his colleagues on the Supreme Court included in their landmark Brown v. Board of Education decision, ruling against “separate but equal” schools, the results of a study that measured black children choosing white dolls over black dolls because the white dolls were considered prettier and nicer.

A similar doll study was done in Mexico a few years ago and is included in Mexico Daily report about the current state of racism there. It found that Mexican children of all colors chose white dolls for the same reason that American black children chose white dolls over black dolls almost 70 years ago in the United States.

Racism in Mexico is not news to Mexicans. The Mexican National Council to Prevent Discrimination has done a study that shows 20 percent of Mexicans are uncomfortable with the color of their skin; 25 percent say they have been discriminated against because of their “appearance,” 55 percent recognized that there is discrimination based on skin color; and 23 percent admit they would not want to live with a person of a different race or culture.

In a similar study in 2016, the National Autonomous University asked whether skin color influenced the way people are treated; 51 percent of respondents answered yes, with 33.4 percent replying yes, in part.

Among the study's respondents, 72 percent agreed that racism exists in Mexico and 47 percent said Indians (and at least 68 Indian dialects are spoken in Mexico) don’t have the same job opportunities as other Mexicans.

Surprise! There is racism in Mexico and the people there recognize it.

Surprise! There is racism in the United States, but people here mostly avoid the subject."

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-ri...-only-we-could

[nubianpiye]

And he's not a star so guess floyd was right

[Oldskoolg]

Of course I do, but I'm not sure how many Mexicans do, or for that fact, I'm not sure how many African-Americans know how dominant it is in Mexico and Latin America! It's 2019! This is ridiculous! EACH ONE TEACH ONE!

Mexicans admit they're racist — if only we could

"Ten percent of Mexico is “gachupine” (gah-choo-pee-neh), which is loosely translated as “white” — an Aztec word meaning "a man wearing shoes with pins," or spurs. (There were no horses in the Western Hemisphere when the Spanish arrived, so there were no spurs.) Sixty percent of Mexico is mixed Indian and white, and 30 percent pure Amerindian.

Mexico News Daily published last year an in-depth article about recent studies conducted on Mexican racism.

No honest Mexican can deny the fact of Mexican racism; multiple studies confirm that beyond any doubt. In one, conducted by the National Institute of Statistics and Geography, the study determined that skin color directly influences how much education is achieved and what kind of employment an individual is offered.

Yet his is not the only study ever conducted in Mexico that shows that racial differences heavily influence Mexican society.

No study was needed between 1519 and 1821, when the Spanish ran Mexico with racial codes that organized the Spanish Western Hemisphere into more than a dozen different racial classifications starting with those born in Spain, the Peninsulares; they were No. 1. Their children born in the New World, the Criollos, were No. 2; No. 3 was the part-Spanish, part-Indian, the mestizo. The penultimate category was the Zamba, half-black and half-Indian. Last was the 100 percent Indian, or Indio.

The only people who could own land and conduct government affairs were in the No. 1 and No. 2 classifications; there was no voting as Spain was a monarchy, not a democracy. Governance limited to Spanish-born white men and their male children left much to be desired.

No wonder, then, that a fed-up Catholic priest, Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla, enamored with American independence and democratic government, loudly pronounced “Death to bad government, death to the gachupines!” to his parishioners at midnight, Sept. 16, 1810; the churchgoers rushed out and attacked Spanish-owned businesses and government property, starting more than 10 years of war for independence.

In retrospect, his followers included mestizos and Indians who were fed up with the overt racism imposed by the Spanish-born and their children on them and on Africans whom Spain brought to Mexico as slaves. Father Hidalgo was himself a “criollo” without a drop of Indian blood.

One view of modern Mexico is that the racial society Father Hidalgo detested still exists, though it is not official policy, as it was when Hidalgo rebelled.

In 1954, then-U.S. Chief Justice Earl Warren and his colleagues on the Supreme Court included in their landmark Brown v. Board of Education decision, ruling against “separate but equal” schools, the results of a study that measured black children choosing white dolls over black dolls because the white dolls were considered prettier and nicer.

A similar doll study was done in Mexico a few years ago and is included in Mexico Daily report about the current state of racism there. It found that Mexican children of all colors chose white dolls for the same reason that American black children chose white dolls over black dolls almost 70 years ago in the United States.

Racism in Mexico is not news to Mexicans. The Mexican National Council to Prevent Discrimination has done a study that shows 20 percent of Mexicans are uncomfortable with the color of their skin; 25 percent say they have been discriminated against because of their “appearance,” 55 percent recognized that there is discrimination based on skin color; and 23 percent admit they would not want to live with a person of a different race or culture.

In a similar study in 2016, the National Autonomous University asked whether skin color influenced the way people are treated; 51 percent of respondents answered yes, with 33.4 percent replying yes, in part.

Among the study's respondents, 72 percent agreed that racism exists in Mexico and 47 percent said Indians (and at least 68 Indian dialects are spoken in Mexico) don’t have the same job opportunities as other Mexicans.

Surprise! There is racism in Mexico and the people there recognize it.

Surprise! There is racism in the United States, but people here mostly avoid the subject."

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-ri...-only-we-could

Well done sir well done. Good to see someone who recognises what was, what is, and what needs to be destroyed

[Oldskoolg]

SO Blacks did nothing before the Mexican-American War? WOW! Just keep doubling down on the ignorance!

In Mexico, racism hides in plain view

By Ruben Navarrette Jr., CNN Contributor
Updated 11:01 AM ET, Tue November 20, 2012

"And yet, even with all the progress and openness in Mexico over the past few years, there is still one subject that no one talks about, one that is still off-limits: race.

The enduring taboo subject is skin color, whether an individual's complexion betrays an allegiance to the Spanish who conquered the Aztec empire in 1521 or the Aztecs who were conquered. It's no exaggeration to say that, in this country and especially in this city, the best, highest-paying, most important jobs often seem to go to those who, in addition to having the best education and the strongest connections, have the lightest skin.

On television, in politics and in academia, you see light-skinned people. On construction sites, in police forces and in restaurant kitchens, you're more likely to find those who are dark-skinned. In the priciest neighborhoods, the homeowners have light skin, and the housekeepers are dark. Everyone knows this, and yet no one talks about it, at least not in elite circles.

Nor do Mexicans seem all that eager to discuss the larger dynamic that race feeds into: the fact that this is, and has always been, a country of deep divisions. In the 100 years since the Mexican Revolution, one part of Mexico has often been at war with another: urban vs. rural, rich vs. poor and, yes, dark-skinned vs. light-skinned.

It's one reason that institutions such as the economy, the political system and the social structure haven't matured as quickly as they should have, given Mexico's advantages.

This country of 120 million people has ports, highways, airports and skyscrapers. It takes in billions of dollars every year in revenues from oil and natural gas, and billions more from tourism and remittances from Mexican migrants living abroad. Mexico's economy is growing faster than the U.S. economy, and investments are flowing in from Asia and Europe. It's consistently within the top three of trading partners for the United States. But what good is all that when only a small number of the population can live up to their full potential? Prejudice kills progress.

The hour is late. It's time for Mexico to confront the color line and free itself of its past. Or it won't have much of a future."

https://www.cnn.com/2012/11/20/opini...ism/index.html

Wake Up Aztec Nation!

He’s following the WS revised history of African peoples....that whitewashed history that seeks to deny anyone black of a meaningful history and that their history began with slavery. This is the legacy of white supremacy in the education system, entertainment apparatus, and the media.

[BigStomps]

That's called being your own man & not being a follower like the majority of his ethnic group that love to go crying about not getting support from another one of their own like it's mandatory or something. Guys like Wilder need to play the victim or the race card to get by because he has no personality. Mayweather did it by dominating the big names/world-class opponents of his era & had the persona to sell to the masses to watch his fights, especially to those who wanted to see him lose. I gained respect for Mayweather for clowning all the tools & followers of that silly Gucci ban & then going on a shopping spree there. Ain't no following the narrative with him. He does what he wants & DGAF who doesn't like it. They can say whatever they want about him, but he's been retired & his name is still coming outta everyone's mouth TILL THIS DAY!!!!!

It sounds like Mayweather's dick is coming out of your mouth though...

[EL_GRINGO]

Floyd has his own fighters to promote, why would he say that about you, how does he benefit from doing that?

[Bronx2245]

He’s following the WS revised history of African peoples....that whitewashed history that seeks to deny anyone black of a meaningful history and that their history began with slavery. This is the legacy of white supremacy in the education system, entertainment apparatus, and the media.

And don't forget the Church!

[elfag]

instead of Wilder complaining that Mayweather isnt being his personal cheerleader for the Ortiz rematch that nobody wants to see, he could be fighting Fury or AJ.

fuk off already Wilder.

[elfag]

I am not black. I am not Mexican. I am a person who doesn't need any one person to tell me who I should respect and or root for. I respect Wilder for what he does in the ring and for boxing out of the ring. Never could say that about Floyd. I might be racist but not of skin color. Usually toward ignorance and dependant peoples in the world I live in. Props to Wilder for calling a spaid a spaid! Enquireing personal news should not be what fans need to know about toward the atheletes in the sport fans admire. Stats and performance is how it should all be judged by. Respect is earned let us fans gain respect from performance not gossip. War Wilder / Ortiz 2!

All of that nonsense followed by war wilder-ortiz 2. Nobody wants to see that fuking fight. Ortiz is 78 years old. Wilder should fight a live body instead of worrying about why retired fighters arent being his personal cheerleaders for free.