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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #51
    Originally posted by 4truth
    Golovkin forcing Canelo to fight according to the established limits, good pick.

    Cotto FORCING Canelo to fight at the same weight Canelo fought his previous 3 fights is another good one.
    Golovkin and Cotto picked the weights and lost. That's the point of the thread. Stay salty.

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    • 4truth
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      #52
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      Golovkin and Cotto picked the weights and lost. That's the point of the thread. Stay salty.
      Golovkin invented the middleweight division? I didn’t know that.

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        #53
        Originally posted by 4truth
        Golovkin invented the middleweight division? I didn’t know that.
        Did DLH invent WW? Golovkin said he'd fight at a catchweight and then changed his mind and demanded 160. He chose the weight, FACT.

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        • aboutfkntime
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          #54
          Originally posted by Boxing1013
          I have like 3 people on ignore man and he is one of them...waste of time man...I wouldn't waste yours...one of a few on here who cares nothing for facts and just blindly supports his tribe/narrative...let it go I would say



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          thinks that Golovkin has a better resume than Canelo.....
          Originally posted by Boxing1013
          I just made a thread about specifically why people rate Canelo's resume as better than GGG's...and I laid out my case as to why I rate GGG's better.....
          https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=820918
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          thinks that one of the " killers " on Golovkin's resume could have beaten Canelo.... but will not say which one
          Originally posted by Boxing1013
          I don't think Canelo would have gotten all of his guys out by KO and maybe would not have 'won' all of them.....
          https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...820918&page=10
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          thinks that Golovkin has faced more quality opposition than almost any other fighter in history.....
          Originally posted by Boxing1013
          never had a slip up against quality opposition, and he faced probably more of them than almost any other fighter in history...

          https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=824905
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          thinks that Andre Ward is no better than Bika Barrera and Miranda
          Originally posted by Boxing1013
          I just never really saw the skills from him..... if he was born in a different country I don't think he would have been looked at much differently than Bika Barrera or Miranda etc.....
          https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...2#post19903762
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          thinks that Golovkin has 5-6 'great' wins..... but cannot even name 1 of those 'great' wins
          Originally posted by Boxing1013
          Yeah he has about 10+ good wins imo...and 5-6 'great' wins if you want to term it that...great fighter, great career...an ATG at MW...that's pretty clear I think..... If a great win is a dominant win over another prime great fighter...I would say GGG has quite a few tbh.....
          https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...821123&page=20
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          thinks that Lemieux, Murray... are the same level as Canelo/Jacobs

          Originally posted by Boxing1013
          Lemieux, Murray pretty clearly around the level of SD Canelo Jacobs...
          https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...9#post20112309
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          thinks that Murray Lemieux Monroe and Vanes, are better wins for Golovkin..... than Lara Cotto Trout and Mosley, are for Canelo.....
          Originally posted by Boxing1013
          Canelo's top wins would be Lara..Jacobs and Cotto imo...GGG's would be Jacobs, Murray and Lemieux...I don't see a ton of separation there..... winning 7-5 vs a great Lara...and going 12 with a shot fat Cotto...is not imo better than 8 Round destruction of Lemieux...and 11 round destruction of Murray..... Vanes was inactive and moving up in weight...but he wasn't shot like SSM more or less was..... I don't think going 12 with Mosley when Canelo did, or 12 with Trout, are better wins than GGG running through Monroe and Geale.....
          https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...820918&page=16
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          creates a thread misquoting Steve Weisfeld.....
          Originally posted by Boxing1013
          Boxing1013 attempted to remove defence, ring generalship, and effective aggression, as official scoring criteria..... to justify why he thinks Golovkin beat Canelo in their rematch..... but, had NO IDEA that Steve Weisfeld was AN OFFICIAL JUDGE at the Canelo/Golovkin rematch..... and Weisfeld scored that fight for Canelo looool
          https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=818903
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          proves that he has no idea how to score a professional boxing match...

          Originally posted by Boxing_1013
          I'll also tell you how I score them...generally give a 'full point' for a good hard clean shot...and a 'half point' for a punch that is a scoring blow but isn't necessarily super hard or clean.
          https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...3#post20372893
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          thinks Golovkin's resume is just as good as Pernell Whitaker's resume

          Originally posted by Boxing_1013
          resume wise it is interesting that one dominated with decision wins over good fighters, and one with KO wins over good fighters...both having the same number of wins, and about the same number of good wins.
          https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=843266
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          thinks that Daniel Geale is a better fighter than Jeff Fenech

          Originally posted by Boxing_1013
          I would even say Geale in his prime was a better fighter than Fenech
          https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...=843266&page=2
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          has NO idea what qualifies a fighter for greatness

          I think you are once again another on here who fails to realize that what makes 99% of great fighters great - is beating 9/10 or even 10/10 of the good solid pros they faced...most greats only face 1-2 or maybe 3 other greats in their primes/best weights, and usually they have mixed results there.
          https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...=843266&page=2
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          thinks that Golovkin is the same level as Duran

          Originally posted by Boxing_1013
          GGG is comparable to Duran levels-wise for me...
          https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...=843918&page=4
          Last edited by aboutfkntime; 03-22-2020, 03:25 PM.

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          • 4truth
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            #55
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
            Did DLH invent WW? Golovkin said he'd fight at a catchweight and then changed his mind and demanded 160. He chose the weight, FACT.
            Are you being serious? You reasoned it out and came up with this??

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            • Pantera_
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              #56
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
              First one that came to mind...
              And Hopkins still weighed in under the catch weight just for the hell of it lol. Talk about a backfire.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Pantera_
                And Hopkins still weighed in under the catch weight just for the hell of it lol. Talk about a backfire.
                Yeah he came in a pound less, that must’ve really messed with Oscar’s head who was obviously hoping to drain B-Hop.

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