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  • #71
    his biggest opponent is 97k ppv because he has never beat it


    (canelos numbers dont count)

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    • #72
      Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
      I know, becaused he faced TOUGHER opposition than them! Like I said prior, Ali is the only one with a tougher resume than Floyd but thats because at that weight class, everyone is 30lbs bigger than him.

      And then you say "He never faced a prime ATG fighter" But only THAT defines someone's legacy, and nothing else right? He never did this, he never did that, but the things he did do, completely shytted on every fighter in history!!

      And 4th time not responding to a word I say!

      Ducking and dodging!

      Btw, SRR never faced an ATG prime fighter!
      Floyd’s resume is not “tougher” than Leonard Duran or hearns...half of Floyd’s resume is smoke and mirrors if you’re honest. He gets props for a great career and longevity, but the goat he is not.

      How many hofers did srr face?...and how many times. You’re reaching now. If fighters today tried that type of schedule, they’re record would most likely be riddled with losses, mayweather included.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
        Floyd’s resume is not “tougher” than Leonard Duran or hearns...half of Floyd’s resume is smoke and mirrors if you’re honest. He gets props for a great career and longevity, but the goat he is not.

        How many hofers did srr face?...and how many times. You’re reaching now. If fighters today tried that type of schedule, they’re record would most likely be riddled with losses, mayweather included.
        Its not tough to be 36 facing men who are 26, outweighing you by 15lbs? Not only beat them, but EMBARRASS them? If it was SRL, he would die by the age of 34.

        Now when I say this, you will ignore it, and repeat the same thing over and over again. You say "If Floyd did what SRL did..."

        Well what about if SRL tried to do what Floyd did? He wouldnt humiliate no damn body. He would literally have brain trauma. If Floyd stayed at 130, and fought more frequently, I dont see him having any issues. His hand issues come from punching on bigger men for most of his career. But for him, its easy as hell.

        You had no response when I asked you how many ATG's SRR faced. You act like their running around all willy nilly in everyone's era.

        You wont hold these fighters to the same standard. Its all about what Floyd didnt do. What about what SRL didnt do? He damn sure could never do what Floyd did.

        I know whats coming; no response, just more nonsense!

        Again, SRL and Ali have the best names on their resume, while Floyd and Ali have the toughest resume, because of circumstantial disadvantages. But Ali won, while Floyd dominated. Floyd aged backwards, while Ali got washed.

        No response to any of this, I know! Lool

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        • #74
          Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
          Its not tough to be 36 facing men who are 26, outweighing you by 15lbs? Not only beat them, but EMBARRASS them? If it was SRL, he would die by the age of 34.

          Now when I say this, you will ignore it, and repeat the same thing over and over again. You say "If Floyd did what SRL did..."

          Well what about if SRL tried to do what Floyd did? He wouldnt humiliate no damn body. He would literally have brain trauma. If Floyd stayed at 130, and fought more frequently, I dont see him having any issues. His hand issues come from punching on bigger men for most of his career. But for him, its easy as hell.

          You had no response when I asked you how many ATG's SRR faced. You act like their running around all willy nilly in everyone's era.

          You wont hold these fighters to the same standard. Its all about what Floyd didnt do. What about what SRL didnt do? He damn sure could never do what Floyd did.

          I know whats coming; no response, just more nonsense!

          Again, SRL and Ali have the best names on their resume, while Floyd and Ali have the toughest resume, because of circumstantial disadvantages. But Ali won, while Floyd dominated. Floyd aged backwards, while Ali got washed.

          No response to any of this, I know! Lool
          Why is it so difficult for you to understand that fighter’s bodies break down different from others? It could be due to poor habits, genetics, injuries etc. We can only compare what guys did during their primes...srl simply faced better opposition than Floyd.

          Stop acting like Floyd could have stayed at 130 his whole career lol...and he had hand problems at 130, way before he was “punching on bigger men”.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
            Why is it so difficult for you to understand that fighter’s bodies break down different from others? It could be due to poor habits, genetics, injuries etc. We can only compare what guys did during their primes...srl simply faced better opposition than Floyd.

            Stop acting like Floyd could have stayed at 130 his whole career lol...and he had hand problems at 130, way before he was “punching on bigger men”.
            So then PROPS TO FLOYD. You said some guys have poor habits, well guess who didnt? FLOYD didnt. He dedicated himself, had GREAT habits. SRL did dope, got washed up, and didnt take it as serious as Floyd did.

            Anytime theirs an opportunity to give props to Floyd, you make excuses and hold him to a separate standard. I treat them all the same and no matter how you cut it, it was ABNORMAL how dominant Floyd was throughout his career and how he aged backwards and embarrassed men HE SHOULDNT'VE BEEN ABLE TO EVEN BEAT.

            And one minute you say "Floyd fought guys past their primes" How can you say that without heeding to the fact of WHAT HE DID WHEN HE WAS PAST HIS PRIME? But by taking heed to that, we confront the fact that SRL wasnt as great as Floyd. So then you say "We can only judge them by what they did in their prime"?

            Lol Your delusional and making up nonsense as you go.

            Floyd faced much much tougher competition than SRL did. If SRL was in Floyd's shoes, he would've been beaten to death.

            "I will ignore that and tell you that SRL faced better opponents again"

            Floyd could've definitely stayed at 130 until the age of 30yrs old which is around the time SRL got washed.

            Floyd broke his hands a few times at the lower weights, but not the way he did when he was at the higher weights. You dont understand boxing, but this is what happens when you face bigger men for so long.

            You said Floyd faced no prime ATG's, then I say "SRR didnt", but then its no response to that??

            You say Floyd didnt do this and didnt do that. No one in the history of boxing did something he couldnt do, not even Bhop. But when we talk about the things he DID do, that no one else COULD do...


            "fIgHtErS aGe dIfFeReNtLy"

            As if what he was doing was ordinary. How come He was the ONLY one in history to age that way then?? I gave you Bhop, but I feel Floyd could outdo him even.

            So answer this question for me!

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            • #76
              Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
              So then PROPS TO FLOYD. You said some guys have poor habits, well guess who didnt? FLOYD didnt. He dedicated himself, had GREAT habits. SRL did dope, got washed up, and didnt take it as serious as Floyd did.

              Anytime theirs an opportunity to give props to Floyd, you make excuses and hold him to a separate standard. I treat them all the same and no matter how you cut it, it was ABNORMAL how dominant Floyd was throughout his career and how he aged backwards and embarrassed men HE SHOULDNT'VE BEEN ABLE TO EVEN BEAT.

              And one minute you say "Floyd fought guys past their primes" How can you say that without heeding to the fact of WHAT HE DID WHEN HE WAS PAST HIS PRIME? But by taking heed to that, we confront the fact that SRL wasnt as great as Floyd. So then you say "We can only judge them by what they did in their prime"?

              Lol Your delusional and making up nonsense as you go.

              Floyd faced much much tougher competition than SRL did. If SRL was in Floyd's shoes, he would've been beaten to death.

              "I will ignore that and tell you that SRL faced better opponents again"

              Floyd could've definitely stayed at 130 until the age of 30yrs old which is around the time SRL got washed.

              Floyd broke his hands a few times at the lower weights, but not the way he did when he was at the higher weights. You dont understand boxing, but this is what happens when you face bigger men for so long.

              You said Floyd faced no prime ATG's, then I say "SRR didnt", but then its no response to that??

              You say Floyd didnt do this and didnt do that. No one in the history of boxing did something he couldnt do, not even Bhop. But when we talk about the things he DID do, that no one else COULD do...


              "fIgHtErS aGe dIfFeReNtLy"

              As if what he was doing was ordinary. How come He was the ONLY one in history to age that way then?? I gave you Bhop, but I feel Floyd could outdo him even.

              So answer this question for me!
              Who said what Floyd did was ordinary? I just said he’s not the goat.

              You keep going back to Floyd beating past prime opponents when he was past his prime...those fights are largely irrelevant. You keep saying Floyd faced better opposition than Leonard...yet he never faced a single opponent as good as Duran, hearns, or hagler when Leonard fought them. Not sure why you’re so bothered by this.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
                Who said what Floyd did was ordinary? I just said he’s not the goat.

                You keep going back to Floyd beating past prime opponents when he was past his prime...those fights are largely irrelevant. You keep saying Floyd faced better opposition than Leonard...yet he never faced a single opponent as good as Duran, hearns, or hagler when Leonard fought them. Not sure why you’re so bothered by this.
                Now your manipulating my words when you know exactly what I said and what I didnt say. If you felt you were right you wouldnt have to do that. You'd simply respond to my point.

                When did I say something about Floyd being past his prime facing other fighters past their prime? When this entire time I have been repeating over and over again, about the big young guys he faced when he was past his prime, buddy???

                "I wont respond to this..I will keep the circus going" Lol

                Idgaf about him facing Cotto and Pacman. Those fights did nothing for his legacy. In fact, the only past prime opponents he faced in recent years that positively affected his legacy was Shane because of how viciously he beat down Margarita, and Pacman simply because the people wanted the fight so bad.

                Over and over again, I pointed out how Floyd was past his prime, 37yrs old facing men who were 23yrs old and 15lbs bigger than him. They could've whipped him out with one single punch, thats how much bigger and stronger they were. Yet he walks them down without being touched by a single shot. Simply outstanding.

                These are the fights that completely shut out guys like SRL from even being in a conversation with Floyd you silly fool.

                "I refuse to respond to this...it hurts my argument..therefor the circus continues"

                SRL was IN HIS PRIME, when he faced the absolute best in his weight class. A blown up Duran..

                "It doesnt matter that Duran was blown up and too small for SRL...It only matters when JMM is blown up and too small for Floyd"

                A prime Hearns, and an aging Hagler at 160..."It doesnt matter that SRL waited for Hagler to age...It only matters that Floyd faced a shopworn Pac."

                No matter what, you just wont respond to anything I say. You ignored so many things, and now I have to copy and paste them.

                Maybe you step up to the plate this time perhaps??

                1. You said some guys have poor habits, well guess who didnt? FLOYD didnt. He dedicated himself, had GREAT habits. SRL did dope, got washed up, and didnt take it as serious as Floyd did.

                Anytime theirs an opportunity to give props to Floyd, you make excuses and hold him to a separate standard. I treat them all the same and no matter how you cut it, it was ABNORMAL how dominant Floyd was throughout his career and how he aged backwards and embarrassed men HE SHOULDNT'VE BEEN ABLE TO EVEN BEAT.

                And one minute you say "Floyd fought guys past their primes" How can you say that without heeding to the fact of WHAT HE DID WHEN HE WAS PAST HIS PRIME? But by taking heed to that, we confront the fact that SRL wasnt as great as Floyd. So then you say "We can only judge them by what they did in their prime"?


                2. You said Floyd faced no prime ATG's, then I say "SRR didnt", but then its no response to that??

                You say Floyd didnt do this and didnt do that. No one in the history of boxing did something he couldnt do, not even Bhop. But when we talk about the things he DID do, that no one else COULD do...


                And btw I say over and over again how Floyd's resume is much tougher than SRL. You wont ever speak on how badly SRL would be beaten down if he tried to fill Floyd's shoes. Yet Floyd just simply overachieved.

                #Goatshyt And its crazy how silly the debate is. Just the thought of someone being able to mimic this man's career, is just silly bullshyt!

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
                  Now your manipulating my words when you know exactly what I said and what I didnt say. If you felt you were right you wouldnt have to do that. You'd simply respond to my point.

                  When did I say something about Floyd being past his prime facing other fighters past their prime? When this entire time I have been repeating over and over again, about the big young guys he faced when he was past his prime, buddy???

                  "I wont respond to this..I will keep the circus going" Lol

                  Idgaf about him facing Cotto and Pacman. Those fights did nothing for his legacy. In fact, the only past prime opponents he faced in recent years that positively affected his legacy was Shane because of how viciously he beat down Margarita, and Pacman simply because the people wanted the fight so bad.

                  Over and over again, I pointed out how Floyd was past his prime, 37yrs old facing men who were 23yrs old and 15lbs bigger than him. They could've whipped him out with one single punch, thats how much bigger and stronger they were. Yet he walks them down without being touched by a single shot. Simply outstanding.

                  These are the fights that completely shut out guys like SRL from even being in a conversation with Floyd you silly fool.

                  "I refuse to respond to this...it hurts my argument..therefor the circus continues"

                  SRL was IN HIS PRIME, when he faced the absolute best in his weight class. A blown up Duran..

                  "It doesnt matter that Duran was blown up and too small for SRL...It only matters when JMM is blown up and too small for Floyd"

                  A prime Hearns, and an aging Hagler at 160..."It doesnt matter that SRL waited for Hagler to age...It only matters that Floyd faced a shopworn Pac."

                  No matter what, you just wont respond to anything I say. You ignored so many things, and now I have to copy and paste them.

                  Maybe you step up to the plate this time perhaps??

                  1. You said some guys have poor habits, well guess who didnt? FLOYD didnt. He dedicated himself, had GREAT habits. SRL did dope, got washed up, and didnt take it as serious as Floyd did.

                  Anytime theirs an opportunity to give props to Floyd, you make excuses and hold him to a separate standard. I treat them all the same and no matter how you cut it, it was ABNORMAL how dominant Floyd was throughout his career and how he aged backwards and embarrassed men HE SHOULDNT'VE BEEN ABLE TO EVEN BEAT.

                  And one minute you say "Floyd fought guys past their primes" How can you say that without heeding to the fact of WHAT HE DID WHEN HE WAS PAST HIS PRIME? But by taking heed to that, we confront the fact that SRL wasnt as great as Floyd. So then you say "We can only judge them by what they did in their prime"?


                  2. You said Floyd faced no prime ATG's, then I say "SRR didnt", but then its no response to that??

                  You say Floyd didnt do this and didnt do that. No one in the history of boxing did something he couldnt do, not even Bhop. But when we talk about the things he DID do, that no one else COULD do...


                  And btw I say over and over again how Floyd's resume is much tougher than SRL. You wont ever speak on how badly SRL would be beaten down if he tried to fill Floyd's shoes. Yet Floyd just simply overachieved.

                  #Goatshyt And its crazy how silly the debate is. Just the thought of someone being able to mimic this man's career, is just silly bullshyt!
                  Name all these top level young fighters Floyd faced who were “15 pounds heavier”. I know you’re referring to canelo, but you act like he fought ten others lol.

                  Sure, you can say Leonard would have lost to similar level opponents at age 37, but I highly doubt Floyd would have gone undefeated if he faced the level of opposition Leonard did in his prime...it goes both ways. I will agree that the “goat” argument is ******...but you’re the one who said it.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
                    Name all these top level young fighters Floyd faced who were “15 pounds heavier”. I know you’re referring to canelo, but you act like he fought ten others lol.

                    Sure, you can say Leonard would have lost to similar level opponents at age 37, but I highly doubt Floyd would have gone undefeated if he faced the level of opposition Leonard did in his prime...it goes both ways. I will agree that the “goat” argument is ******...but you’re the one who said it.
                    Ortiz who was the #2 welterweight in the division, after steamrolling Berto. He was 164lbs and 24yrs old and Floyd was 34yrs old 150lbs coming off a 16 month lay off. Your pretending like all of this never happened.

                    Ghost who was the #3 wellterweight behind Floyd and Pac, who beat down Selkic Aidyn and Berto, he was 160lbs 30yrs old while Floyd was 36yrs old and 148lbs. The Chino fights, which Floyd didnt look good in. Floyd was 148lbs and 37yrs old, while Chino was 165lbs and 30yrs old.

                    Canelo was just the fight where Floyd just really performed on a lever higher than we were used to. It as an ATG performance.

                    Its not that SRL would have "lost" its that he would've lost his life! Its one thing if Floyd simply WON, but its the fact that he humiliates the opposition. Its beyond "winning".

                    Yes, Floyd would 100% go undefeated facing SRL's opponents. We based this off the fact that Floyd faced tougher competition and has more skills and abilities than SRL. But making Floyd a natural welterweight, making him taller, longer arms, Floyd would dominate and embarrass SRL's opponents.

                    Imagine a taller and longer Floyd facing a washed Hagler like SRL did. Floyd embarrasses guys like that every damn day.

                    The GOAT argument is ****** because Floyd completely shytted on everyone else. Your not used to seeing a fighter this much better and accomplished than anyone in history.

                    Its not an argument at all. Your one of these guys who nitpick Floyd and everything he accomplished, and its hard to do that with me because Im going to go and treat other fighters the same way, and nitpick their legacies as well.

                    So you walk away from this conversation holding them all to the same standard, and you realize that their is no one above Floyd Mayweather!

                    You didnt admit it yet. You just trolled and ignored my points, which let me know that you are starting to see!

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
                      Name all these top level young fighters Floyd faced who were “15 pounds heavier”. I know you’re referring to canelo, but you act like he fought ten others lol.

                      Sure, you can say Leonard would have lost to similar level opponents at age 37, but I highly doubt Floyd would have gone undefeated if he faced the level of opposition Leonard did in his prime...it goes both ways. I will agree that the “goat” argument is ******...but you’re the one who said it.
                      Since you ignore allot of my fire, I decided to reply in isolated posts.

                      Respond to this;

                      SRL was IN HIS PRIME, when he faced the absolute best in his weight class. A blown up Duran..

                      "It doesnt matter that Duran was blown up and too small for SRL...It only matters when JMM is blown up and too small for Floyd"

                      A prime Hearns, and an aging Hagler at 160..."It doesnt matter that SRL waited for Hagler to age...It only matters that Floyd faced a shopworn Pac."


                      So Hearns is the only HOF that SRL faced at his best? Lol Aging Hagler and blown up Duran.

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