Comments Thread For: GGG: Biggest Opponent is My Age & Determination To Keep Boxing

[MurkaMan]

Really?? You can't say no unless you take everything into account. SRR had an unbeaten streak of 92 fights. That's almost double the total number of fights Mayweather had in his entire career! He had a total of 174 fights in his career. That is a lot of wear and tear. Your comparison although it looks good on paper is full of holes. Get back to us after Mayweather reaches 174 fights.

1. Still not quite the response Im looking for. Back then they fought 5 times a month, and allot of those fights were exhibition matches.

2. SRR is talented, but the guys he fought were a few notches below Berto.

3. Their are no holes. How come everyone nitpicks Floyd, who is greater than anyone we've ever seen, but when I mention SRR fought bums in an empty era, its an excuse?

Guys asking "How many prime goats has Mayweather faced" All I did was ask how many SRR faced. If you want to do it to Floyd, then you got to do it to everyone. But when we do that, Floyd is going to REALLY be seen as greater than all the other legends in history.

My stance is simple, I treat all these fighters the same. No disrespect to SRR at all!

[MurkaMan]

Just like the bulk of the rest of your posts, that was a whole lot of words to say basically nothing.

At the end of the day, Floyd never faced the level of competition those guys did. He lasted longer and has a pretty damn impressive legacy, especially given the money he made.

All this talk of who’s better is useless when these guys can never face each other...but the starting point for that convo should begin with, who did they beat, and under what context?

If you insist Floyd beating past prime names when he was also past it, is better than Leonard beating prime hofers and atg’s, that’s your business. If you wanna say the canelo win was better, ok. But was canelo more accomplished than Benitez/Duran/hearns/hagler at that point? There’s no doubt canelo has improved a lot, but that’s not the version that Floyd fought...at a cw.

1. No. Canelo was not more accomplished than Hearns, SRL's only prime opponent. But the circumstantial disadvantages, with his age, and size, and Mayweather being too old and small for him. Walked him down and didnt get touched!

2. You speak on Canelo having a cw, as if he was at a disadvantage. If SRL was 37yrs old, and faced a man who was 23yrs old and 15lbs bigger at a cw, you wouldnt mention it. Because it would be the fight of SRL's life. For Floyd, its another mismatch!

Thats crazy right? Think about that, for any other fighter in history, its a death in the ring. For Floyd, is just the one sided Floyd Show! Lol


3.When speaking on who's the best you said "the starting point for that convo should begin with, who did they beat, and under what context" My exact point; The circumstantial disadvantages. But it goes beyond that even. With SRL its about winning, with Floyd its about dominating. I also ask "Who did something that no one else could do?" Thats Floyd. SRL has done nothing that Floyd couldnt do. Floyd would whitewash those guys, especially if we gave him SRL's size, so they have the exact same advantages and disadvantages. But even being smaller than him, SRL has done nothing that Floyd couldnt do. SRL would lose his life trying to do what Floyd did.

I know, you will go in circles, repeat things that I already responded to, then pretend like you didnt see it.

But my words are genuine. Your energy is bad for boxing. Where is your love and passion for the sport?

This man has the toughest resume ever since Muhummed Ali, and completely shytted on Ali, SRL, SRR all COMBINED. It happened in our era.

For so long, guys have been able to say "This opponent too old, this one too young", but with me, I treat all the fighters the same. So I guess the argument gets stifled.

But swallow your pride and pay homage. You were blown away at watching Floyd because you never ever seen this type of dominance against this quality of opposition.


So I know I wont EVER get you to verbalize how you feel after really taking a closer look at these fighters. You got some PRIDE my boy, no beef at all!!

[MurkaMan]

So you’re talking about how good Guerrero was cuz he beat berto, but saying Duran didn’t prove himself when he moved up? Lol...you’re officially out to lunch. Duran is a bonafide atg...Guerrero...lol.

Duran isnt an atg to me. He did good at 135, moved up in weight, got beat by everyone, except one big man at 160.

But he is a quitter and doesnt have any heart. Ghost didnt just beat Berto. He bullied his way into the top 3 spot in the ranks. If Floyd had not have faced him, it would be a duck to me.

I think Ghost was a bad mf when he made his noise, but thats far from my point.

The circumstantial disadvantages. He was in his prime, 30yrs old, 160lbs, Floyd was 36yrs old, and 148lbs.

Now imagine that being SRL. SRL would be killed within 4 rounds Lol

[MurkaMan]

So you’re talking about how good Guerrero was cuz he beat berto, but saying Duran didn’t prove himself when he moved up? Lol...you’re officially out to lunch. Duran is a bonafide atg...Guerrero...lol.

You know I got to keep spamming you with this one Lol

Has Ray Robinson faced one opponent as good as Ortiz? Nope Lol

[Real King Kong]

You know I got to keep spamming you with this one Lol

Has Ray Robinson faced one opponent as good as Ortiz? Nope Lol

Nobody is responding to that cuz of how ridiculous it is. Ortiz is basically a journeyman. He lost to every decent fighter he faced...he was stopped by collazo ffs. The guy just didn’t have it mentally to be a top fighter. Robinson’s resume is full of real fighters who don’t buckle under pressure. Ortiz...lol...you gotta be trolling with that bs.

[MurkaMan]

Nobody is responding to that cuz of how ridiculous it is. Ortiz is basically a journeyman. He lost to every decent fighter he faced...he was stopped by collazo ffs. The guy just didn’t have it mentally to be a top fighter. Robinson’s resume is full of real fighters who don’t buckle under pressure. Ortiz...lol...you gotta be trolling with that bs.

Wrong answer. Ray Robinson has never in his life faced an opponent as good as Ortiz. Mayweather MADE Ortiz a journeymen, but before that, he was competitive with all the top fighters, and by the time he had faced Floyd, he was the #2 fighter in the division.

Ray Robinson has never faced one single legend, or one single great opponent. You probably didnt know this.

He fought in an era where boxing was a trade. You didnt fight because you were talented, you fought to pay bills. Any man who wanted to make a living became a fighter. Its not like it is today, where you go into the Am's, and accomplish things before becoming a pro.

100% of SRR's legacy are all bums! You didnt know this though.

[Gideon lock]

You know I got to keep spamming you with this one Lol

Has Ray Robinson faced one opponent as good as Ortiz? Nope Lol

Yeah I'd rate jake lamotta as a better fighter than Victor ortiz are you for real?

[MurkaMan]

Yeah I'd rate jake lamotta as a better fighter than Victor ortiz are you for real?

Wrong. Jake Lomatta is not even a good fighter AT ALL. Jake Lomatta is the type of fighter we would get pissed at Floyd for fighting.

So many "historians" have let us all down. They talk about the throwback fighters like they were gods. SRR was fighting nothing but bums, but thats because his era didnt have any true talent.

With that being said, they were all bigger than him same with Floyd's opponents. Except Floyd is fighting real fighters and champions who are bigger and younger. SRR was beating down on big bums.

[Real King Kong]

Wrong answer. Ray Robinson has never in his life faced an opponent as good as Ortiz. Mayweather MADE Ortiz a journeymen, but before that, he was competitive with all the top fighters, and by the time he had faced Floyd, he was the #2 fighter in the division.

Ray Robinson has never faced one single legend, or one single great opponent. You probably didnt know this.

He fought in an era where boxing was a trade. You didnt fight because you were talented, you fought to pay bills. Any man who wanted to make a living became a fighter. Its not like it is today, where you go into the Am's, and accomplish things before becoming a pro.

100% of SRR's legacy are all bums! You didnt know this though.

weak azz trolling here. the other "top fighters" Ortiz was "competitive" with were B level at best. but yea, Ortiz was better than lhw joey maxim. if you wanna argue modern fighters are better, fine...but they were certainly tougher back then. I'd take any fighter who went 15 rounds every few weeks over a guy who folds mentally under adversity like Ortiz.

[Real King Kong]

1. Still not quite the response Im looking for. Back then they fought 5 times a month, and allot of those fights were exhibition matches.

2. SRR is talented, but the guys he fought were a few notches below Berto.

3. Their are no holes. How come everyone nitpicks Floyd, who is greater than anyone we've ever seen, but when I mention SRR fought bums in an empty era, its an excuse?

Guys asking "How many prime goats has Mayweather faced" All I did was ask how many SRR faced. If you want to do it to Floyd, then you got to do it to everyone. But when we do that, Floyd is going to REALLY be seen as greater than all the other legends in history.

My stance is simple, I treat all these fighters the same. No disrespect to SRR at all!

Lol “treating all these fighters the same”...except for calling these hofers that srr fought bums, while trying to elevate B & C level fighters who will never have a hope in hell of being inducted into the hof. You’re moving the goalposts to bolster your dumb argument, plain and simple.