Manny over Spence

[Lopez_Boxing]

Manny might hit harder then Porter, but he don't have his size or strength or chin(at this weight and time). Really not trying to sh it on Pac, but I think the Porter who just fought Spence beats Pac at this point. Pac has always had probs with a rough style going back to A Sanchez and even Horn(who he did beat, but it was closer/harder then most thought imo). Don't think we will see Pac v Spence, but if we do I would take Spence, but I respect your opinion no doubt.

I agree 100% with pac vs porter/ rough fighters at this point.

Pac ia going to turn Spence, side step5 and faint at him Spence will have to constantly reset. Spences body attack wpnt work against a short fighter like pax.. I see all yje variables in pacs side.

Is spences stamina going to hold after a barrage of pac punches?

I got pac man.

[hugh grant]

You forgive it because you are a pac semen slurper. We will never know if he'd beat Cotto at 147 because he didn't fight him at that weight. His beating Thurman now in no way means he'd have beaten Cotto at 147. He used a CW and its no different than any other fighter that imposes a cw on their opponent.

We even have less idea of how Floyd would do against nel o at 154 as not only did Floyd not fight him at that weight there is not enough evidence of Floyd beating great 154 fighters like there is of Pac beating 147 fighters whilst way past his prime.
And the green CW nel o win is supposed to be floyds best win after his win over former flyweight pac.? And the win has a huge asterix! Not looking good for floyd however you look at it. In fact why do you consider it such a great win if you don't know if Floyd would beat him at 154? A green nel o at that!

[FredRekk]

I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm just giving my reasoning same as yours.

You can think anything you wish about my judgement the fact remains Manny and his team are refusing to fight Spence. While you are confident Manny will win, his own team isn't. while you may feel my evaluation isn't on point you can't be such an arrogant ***** that you think your judgement usurps Manny and his team's.

I never posted Spence looks invincible. All I did was take everything into consideration, the advantages and disadvantages both have, to make a prediction on the fight.

If they fight, are you willing to put some real money on Manny? If so, let me know because I will take Spence.

Lmao haha Manny WHOOPED COTTO! And Cotto weighed about 160 on fight night you nitwit!!!

Pissed off cause Manny keeps retiring all your favorite boxers! He’s gonna retire Errol “Hit Low When In Peril” Spence, too! Haha

LMAO GO LEARN BOXING B!TCH3Z!

[The Big Dunn]

We even have less idea of how Floyd would do against nel o at 154 as not only did Floyd not fight him at that weight there is not enough evidence of Floyd beating great 154 fighters like there is of Pac beating 147 fighters whilst way past his prime.
And the green CW nel o win is supposed to be floyds best win after his win over former flyweight pac.? And the win has a huge asterix! Not looking good for floyd however you look at it. In fact why do you consider it such a great win if you don't know if Floyd would beat him at 154? A green nel o at that!

You can devalue and degrade Floyd's wins as you wish. As for Manny v Spence, if Manny gets the courage to fight him I will take Spence. Lets see if you're man enough to put your money on Manny.

Here is what Canelo said about the CW.
https://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael...ling-the-truth

Although Alvarez has to lose two more pounds than usual to get to 152, he said on Tuesday that he was already at 153, so making 152 by Friday’s weigh-in would be no issue. “I've been able to make the weight in the past without a problem,” Alvarez said. “In fact, in my most recent fights I've been under on the day of the weigh-in. I really don't do that much work, so I think that it's going to be fine. I feel very, very good right now, and in fact, I think it's going to help me. I'm going to be a lot faster.”

[The Big Dunn]

Lmao haha Manny WHOOPED COTTO! And Cotto weighed about 160 on fight night you nitwit!!!

Pissed off cause Manny keeps retiring all your favorite boxers! He’s gonna retire Errol “Hit Low When In Peril” Spence, too! Haha

LMAO GO LEARN BOXING B!TCH3Z!

If they fight, put your money where your mouth is. No that would mean you'd be putting it on Manny's taint so if they fight please put your money on Manny. I will gladly take Spence.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Yea he made distance, but how many rds did he win again??? Also I think Mikey would have a VERY good chance to beat THIS version of Pac at 140. Manny right now is being overrated imo because of the Thurman win. Thurman has not looked good since injury and I VERY much doubt he will EVER beat another top 10 47pder again. TBF to Pac I don't think he looked very good in that fight either and the Pac of just a couple years ago stops THAT Thurman.

that doesnt matter... the subject at hand was that pac will get destroyed by spence... so im saying that lil azz mikey garcia made it to the 12th round so im sure manny will be fine.

it doesnt matter how you feel about thurman.. if spence is gonna destroyed pac then thurman should have also!! yall mofos cant keep making up excuses. it's excuses after excuses with yall peoples...

i remember a time when yall was saying that manny will never face a puncher at this point in his career and when he does he'll get knocked the fvvvck out!! then manny fights a puncher and it's all excuses ever since! lol.

[The Big Dunn]

Good points. That was also a undefeated version of southpaw Trout who had just beat Cotto(little bit faded version). I think that was the fight that helped make Canelo a better fighter and then he did improve more after Lara. How come no one brings up fact that was not a prime May either. He was 36 and giving up 20+pdes fight night in his 5th div.

They don't mention Floyd's age because that would mean they'd have to give him credit and guys like Hugh Grant will never do that. That is a poster that made a list of guys Floyd had to beat to be an ATG then erased the post when he defeated everyone on the list.

That is the type of weak minded simpleton we are dealing with here.

[IceTrayDaGang]

This is impossible

You obviously still feel some way about past conversations we've had.

I'm not implying anything. I asked your opinion, which caused you to bring up Floyd and whomever else again.

You could have just said no, and if you wanted to explain why you could have. That would have sufficed instead of all of your detective work about what I'm up to...when I haven't been up to anything you su****ious old fool Just relax yourself.

so that's not what you're trying to imply then with your post about if spence beat manny will he be consider as the better fighter??? so let me flip it on you and asked you your own question then... if spence beat manny, will that make him a better fighter? this should be good.

[hectari]

Im saying it right now!!! Spence couldn't handle Porters foot work. He got spint on the ropes whenever porter wanted.

How is Spence going to deal with Mannys foot work and angles. Spence has NO power to hurt Manny. Manny has power to hurt Spence and make think. Manny can keep the pace as long as it takes to get Spence out of there

You think Spence is actually going to go toe to toe with Pacman like he did with Porter who isn't known as a brutal puncher?

Spence is not going to get in close with a short arm puncher who will always get the better of him in exchanges because of how fast his short arms are. Some people think Spence is ****** enough to do that lol come on man.

Spence is just going to do the same **** the others have done with Pac, keep distance put his long foot forward and make Pacman come to him while he tries to copy Marquez with a one punch KO as Pac tries to get in close.

Spence isn't ******, after that Porter fight it showed he is almost robotic, really no head movement all his defense is straight back or forward and comes from him keeping range.

Porter cant really bust a g**** and was landing at will, Pacman lands he swells you up, Spence has BUG protruding eyes so he knows dam well he dont want Pac landing on his eye area.

Look for Spence to keep his distance the fight going the distance with Errol winning a decision or knocking Pac out rushing in.

The best in the division is Crawford, he has more skill and fluidity than Spence. Spence is just tall and rangey and uses that European text book style boxing, straight up and down, no special effects.

[travestyny]

so that's not what you're trying to imply then with your post about if spence beat manny will he be consider as the better fighter??? so let me flip it on you and asked you your own question then... if spence beat manny, will that make him a better fighter? this should be good.

I've already explained that I wasn't implying anything. I don't know of any other way to say that.


My opinion: No, it would not make Spence a better fighter. My question was about their work at welter, however. If he beats Pac, I still wouldn't consider him to have done better work at welter. However, if he goes on to clean out the division, including Crawford, I think he has an argument for doing better work at Welter than Manny.