Manny over Spence

[Lopez_Boxing]

Little lower than I was hoping for but OK. If in the future they fight we can surely revisit because things could happen in between that alter your prediction or mine.

Absolutely.

And we can go higher. I dont really gamble. This only a friendly wager. So im comfortable with anything.
I would be betting more on my evaluation of the fight rather than manny himself..

[strykr619]

Prove to you that it's an opinion. Um...ok. Here is boxrec's rankings.

Boxingrec's algorithm takes whole career into account so of course Manny will rank lower because he has a longer career

To say that Spence has a better resume doesn't even past the eye test. Even Pac haters can't say that. Even you know this.

[hugh grant]

You forgive it because you are a pac semen slurper. We will never know if he'd beat Cotto at 147 because he didn't fight him at that weight. His beating Thurman now in no way means he'd have beaten Cotto at 147. He used a CW and its no different than any other fighter that imposes a cw on their opponent.

Floyd used a CW agains an inexperienced kid in only his 5th weight class. Pac used it against a hall of famer in his 7th weight class. And pac had to preserve his health for the next fifteen years of fighting. Floyd used it to preserve his health (even though hes retiring) also his unbeaten record and get out unbeaten, so his fans could claim hes too good to be beat.
Pacs forgiven. There was nothing to forgive pac for in the first place, he was never in the dog house. Floyd is still begging for forgiveness now. He isn't close to being forgiven until he does more. Fights Nelo with CW and then retires after 2 more fights against WWs.?
Yes, Pacs CW is justified, Floyds isn't. Although Floyd fans forgive Floyd anything, whether its CW, not fighting abroad with America is the mecca of boxing type comments? Cheating scales, sucker punches, IV fluids, you name it, Floyd fans turn a blind eye to it.

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd used a CW agains an inexperienced kid. Pac used it against a hall of famer. And pac had to preserve his health for the next fifteen years of fighting. Floyd used it to preserve his unbeaten record and get out unbeaten, so his fans could claim hes too good to be beat.
Pacs forgiven. There was nothing to forgive pac for in the first place, he was never in the dog house. Floyd is still begging for forgiveness now. He isn't close to being forgiven until he does more. Fights Nelo with CW and then retires after 2 more fights against WWs.?

Canelo had 44 fights when he fought Floyd. cotto had 36 when he fought Manny. Canelo was 23. Cotto was 29 when he fought Manny. Stop making up reasons for Manny's cw. He did it to give himself a better chance to win.

The rest of your post is just gibberish.

[hugh grant]

Canelo had 44 fights when he fought Floyd. cotto had 36 when he fought Manny. Canelo was 23. Cotto was 29 when he fought Manny. Stop making up reasons for Manny's cw. He did it to give himself a better chance to win.

The rest of your post is just gibberish.

Nelo was more experienced than anyone. But only at fighting bums. Nelos nearly 40 fights were in mexico and he was unknown not long before Floyd fought him.
But we know you forgive Floyd anything from CW, cheating scales, home advantage, IV fluids. I could go on.

[The Big Dunn]

Nelo was more experienced than anyone. But only at fighting bums. Nelos nearly 40 fights were in mexico and he was unknown not long before Floyd fought him.
But we know you forgive Floyd anything from CW, cheating scales, home advantage, IV fluids. I could go on.

Canelo made 5 title defenses before he fought Floyd. He fought Trout the fight before he fought Floyd. Shane 2 fights before that. You know nothing about the sport.

[travestyny]

Boxingrec's algorithm takes whole career into account so of course Manny will rank lower because he has a longer career

To say that Spence has a better resume doesn't even past the eye test. Even Pac haters can't say that. Even you know this.

What about ESPN's rankings? Or the Ring's rakings?


https://www.******.com/ratings/?weightclass=279


I don't know of anyone who said he has a better resume. But could that wind up being the case if he takes out Pac and Crawford for instance. With the way some of you rank even this version of Manny, that would be pretty impressive work at Welter if he accomplishes it.

[john l]

I dont know bro. Before the mikey fight i would say spence, but now I think i seen enough of spence to see his abilities dont carry to the next level.
I think the manny that fought Thurman beats the Spence we just seen.

Spence is easily turned and hit. manny will be turning him and hitting him at all different angles all night. Manny hits harder than porter.
Just my opinion. I hope it comes to fruition.

I def got manny until either of show me different.

Manny might hit harder then Porter, but he don't have his size or strength or chin(at this weight and time). Really not trying to sh it on Pac, but I think the Porter who just fought Spence beats Pac at this point. Pac has always had probs with a rough style going back to A Sanchez and even Horn(who he did beat, but it was closer/harder then most thought imo). Don't think we will see Pac v Spence, but if we do I would take Spence, but I respect your opinion no doubt.

[john l]

Canelo made 5 title defenses before he fought Floyd. He fought Trout the fight before he fought Floyd. Shane 2 fights before that. You know nothing about the sport.

Good points. That was also a undefeated version of southpaw Trout who had just beat Cotto(little bit faded version). I think that was the fight that helped make Canelo a better fighter and then he did improve more after Lara. How come no one brings up fact that was not a prime May either. He was 36 and giving up 20+pdes fight night in his 5th div.

[john l]

lil 135lbs mikey made it to the 12th round. are you saying lil 135lbs mikey is tougher than manny? lol.

Yea he made distance, but how many rds did he win again??? Also I think Mikey would have a VERY good chance to beat THIS version of Pac at 140. Manny right now is being overrated imo because of the Thurman win. Thurman has not looked good since injury and I VERY much doubt he will EVER beat another top 10 47pder again. TBF to Pac I don't think he looked very good in that fight either and the Pac of just a couple years ago stops THAT Thurman.