Manny over Spence

[travestyny]

call outs, trash talks. "if you call pac out enough".

when have you heard manny tell a fighter to go and fight another fighter first to get a shot at him? cut from a different cloth bruh.

I'll be honest with you. Manny disappointed me. I don't believe it was Manny that was ducking Floyd. I believe it was Arum that was ducking making the fight. I thought when Pac got away from Arum, we'd see the courage that all his fans brag about. Made me convinced he was going to challenge Spence, and when he got in the ring with him I was sure that was going to be the fight he chose. But he chose Thurman instead, and no I don't buy that it was because of trash talk.

In any event, it was smart on his part. But does he really want to wait until he is even older to fight Spence? I guess if he has it in mind to "cash out," it can make some sort of sense.

[IceTrayDaGang]

I'll be honest with you. Manny disappointed me. I don't believe it was Manny that was ducking Floyd. I believe it was Arum that was ducking making the fight. I thought when Pac got away from Arum, we'd see the courage that all his fans brag about. Made me convinced he was going to challenge Spence, and when he got in the ring with him I was sure that was going to be the fight he chose. But he chose Thurman instead, and no I don't buy that it was because of trash talk.

In any event, it was smart on his part. But does he really want to wait until he is even older to fight Spence? I guess if he has it in mind to "cash out," it can make some sort of sense.

i agreed. bobby did the same when he wouldnt match pac/crawford while BOTH were under him.

[john l]

I agree 100% with pac vs porter/ rough fighters at this point.

Pac ia going to turn Spence, side step5 and faint at him Spence will have to constantly reset. Spences body attack wpnt work against a short fighter like pax.. I see all yje variables in pacs side.

Is spences stamina going to hold after a barrage of pac punches?

I got pac man.

Well we just might have to put a friendly wager on it if it ever happens. I got GGG by dec in a competitive but clear fight this weekend. Who you got?

[Stev3]

Uhh he beat him 12-0 on every judges card and made Garcia stop punching for fear of getting countered.

Thank you

Mikey was shelled up the whole fight and threw like 5 punches in a round

[john l]

You can devalue and degrade Floyd's wins as you wish. As for Manny v Spence, if Manny gets the courage to fight him I will take Spence. Lets see if you're man enough to put your money on Manny.

Here is what Canelo said about the CW.

https://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/5458/catch-weight-whos-telling-the-truth

Although Alvarez has to lose two more pounds than usual to get to 152, he said on Tuesday that he was already at 153, so making 152 by Friday’s weigh-in would be no issue. “I've been able to make the weight in the past without a problem,” Alvarez said. “In fact, in my most recent fights I've been under on the day of the weigh-in. I really don't do that much work, so I think that it's going to be fine. I feel very, very good right now, and in fact, I think it's going to help me. I'm going to be a lot faster.”

Nice post! I have been saying this for ever. In Canelo's own words(his trainer has said same)he said making 152 was NO problem. They BOTH said it before and after fight. You know someone has an agenda when they make excuses for fighters who don't even believe it themselves. FTR I don't like CW but in this case according to those who REALLY matter(Canelo+coach)it had no effect. Its not the same as Pac vs Cotto when Cotto had to make 145 when he was getting ready to move to 54, and that's exactly what he did after fight. Moved to 154 and never even fought at 47 again.

[FredRekk]

I'll be honest with you. Manny disappointed me. I don't believe it was Manny that was ducking Floyd. I believe it was Arum that was ducking making the fight. I thought when Pac got away from Arum, we'd see the courage that all his fans brag about. Made me convinced he was going to challenge Spence, and when he got in the ring with him I was sure that was going to be the fight he chose. But he chose Thurman instead, and no I don't buy that it was because of trash talk.

In any event, it was smart on his part. But does he really want to wait until he is even older to fight Spence? I guess if he has it in mind to "cash out," it can make some sort of sense.

Lmao, you clowns make me laugh.

Floyd ducked the fight for over 5 years. Its a known fact, stop trying to rewrite history .

[john l]

that doesnt matter... the subject at hand was that pac will get destroyed by spence... so im saying that lil azz mikey garcia made it to the 12th round so im sure manny will be fine.

it doesnt matter how you feel about thurman.. if spence is gonna destroyed pac then thurman should have also!! yall mofos cant keep making up excuses. it's excuses after excuses with yall peoples...

i remember a time when yall was saying that manny will never face a puncher at this point in his career and when he does he'll get knocked the fvvvck out!! then manny fights a puncher and it's all excuses ever since! lol.

1st off I'm not "mofos" or "yall" not sure who your talking about. 2nd Garcia is not much smaller then Pac so don't know where your going with that. 3rd Garcia never took any chances and just survived its VERY tough to stop a top fighter when he is just trying to survive instead of win. Also im not sure if Pac could beat Mikey at his point, although with his footwork its a bad style match for Mikey. Lastly I would not call Thurman a puncher he has decent power, but name a top fighter he KOed or even came close to? Spence is a whole other animal then Thurman who tbh has not looked the same since injury and I VERY much doubt he will ever beat another LEGIT top 10 fighter(THE RING, TRANS). TBF to Pac I did not think he looked very good, and believe just a couple yeas ago he stops THAT version of Thurman.

[john l]

Lmao, you clowns make me laugh.

Floyd ducked the fight for over 5 years. Its a known fact, stop trying to rewrite history .

Yea it was Floyd who would not take test and said he was afraid of needles. Even Roach has said 1st fight in 2010 was THIER fault that it did not happen. Its on YOUTUBE for anyone who wants to see it. It seems its you trying to rewrite history. BTW how did that fight turn out?

[john l]

They don't mention Floyd's age because that would mean they'd have to give him credit and guys like Hugh Grant will never do that. That is a poster that made a list of guys Floyd had to beat to be an ATG then erased the post when he defeated everyone on the list.

That is the type of weak minded simpleton we are dealing with here.

Yea its just people who cant control their bias. May acts like an azz a lot, but that's not what we are evaluating. They say being undefeated means nothing. and then say he was not TBEra because he should have lost to JLC or had a draw with Maidana. They call him a ducker even though he beat the 2 guys who gave him his hardest fights in DIRECT rematches. You cant win with these people. They will go on hating Floyd until the day they die. Some of the media are just as bad(D Fisher) he tried to make a case for Pac being the better fighter because at age 40 he beat Thurman, and May was retired fighting EX. Well who the hell was SRL fighting at 40? And when he did he got stopped by an old smaller fighter, and that means NOTHING. Is SRL any less of a fighter or ATG? Hell NO.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Im saying it right now!!! Spence couldn't handle Porters foot work. He got spint on the ropes whenever porter wanted.

How is Spence going to deal with Mannys foot work and angles. Spence has NO power to hurt Manny. Manny has power to hurt Spence and make think. Manny can keep the pace as long as it takes to get Spence out of there

Maybe 10 years ago. Today, Pac doesn't have the lungs, and he's still easy enough for Spence to figure out.

You guys are selling Porter short. That's about the toughest Black dude you'll find. And he stayed the course. That was a very good performance by both men.