Has Fury been made less effective by Deontay ?

[Marchegiano]

Give Tyson time. You can't really tell based on one fight if a man is ruined. However, Wilder's closest career and style analog was a destroyer of men. It wouldn't shock me if Fury was never the same again, but, it's Tyson Fury, wouldn't shock me if he was the same.

To be honest, I feel like Tyson is very consistent. Looked bad against Wilder, looked bad against Wallin, whatever, honestly he looked like Tyson from bell to bell everytime I see him.

The excuses get lame after a while. Laid off for years, makes sense, fought a SP, makes sense, but these are flavor of the month. Cunningham put him on ass because? He punched himself in the face because? Pajkic caught him because? Different excuses.

He takes risks. Sometimes that makes him look a bit ****ed. Other times it makes him look a bit great. Either way, Tyson Fury has always been a mix of wow that's incredible for a fat HW and lol this dude kinda sucks. Always been.

His fans focus too much on when he looks great and make up excuses for when he looks ass

His haters focus too much on when he looks ass and makes up excuses for the greatness.

Truth is the dude is a mixed bag.

[Marchegiano]

AJ KO'd Molina a lot quicker than Wilder did.

Povetkin knocked Duhaupus out cold with one punch. Wilder couldn't knock him down.

Dillian Whyte's KO of Szpilka was just as devastating as Wilder's, but Dillian didn't get outboxed for 8 rounds before flattening him!

I don't know if AJ, Povetkin and Whyte hit as hard as Wilder. But imo, all 3 of them would have KO'd everybody on Wilder's record, apart from Fury and possibly Ortiz.

Left out Gavern, Josh took a round less for that too.

Leftovers are easy. Hence Wach getting a UD with Wlad while being KO'd by Pov.

Hell, Pov's whole resume is leftover, dude's scared of unbeaten fighters.

[BangEM]

This clown, Kafkod, said Dillian Whyte knocked out Szpilka instead of Chisora. LMAO.

If I were a cu.nt like you, I would've used that to question your knowledge of boxing since brownie points is what most of you pricks on here are after. I'm off to Warsaw next month to see Lewandoski. Wanna leave Newcastle and get on the voyage with me? LMAO.

[juggernaut666]

No what you saw was a better boxer Wallin whos a southpaw do what wilder couldn't bc hes a volume aggressive puncher and Fury was in better shape and knew about Wallin and his people bc of Joey Gamache Wallins traininer , so all the excuses created here don't change the lesser boxer Wilder had it easier with a rusty Fury not the Fury Wallin had got.

The idiocy Fury isn't the same bc that knucklehead says so is for ****** ppl to believe. All wilder does is take credit for what others do its a sign of someone so full of himself they are referred to as PSYCHOPATHS ,ones who are egocentrical personalities. Imagine if Ortiz fight didn't happen and he was never saved by the bell how he would be acting ? That doesn't even stop him .

[kafkod]

Left out Gavern, Josh took a round less for that too.

Leftovers are easy.

Yeah, Jason Gavern was a killer before Wilder ruined him!

Hell, Pov's whole resume is leftover, dude's scared of unbeaten fighters.

Povetkin fought an unbeaten AJ, in the UK, which was something Wilder didn't have the stomach for. He also fought Wlad, another man Wilder avoided like the plague. Nobody should question Povetkin's courage and willingness to take risks.

Btw, the info you gave me on lineal titles and Ring magazine was very useful in helping me get a proper perspective on what lineal titles mean - or don't mean - in the present era. I'll go back to that thread and tell you what i came up with when I have a bit more time.

[kafkod]

This clown, Kafkod, said Dillian Whyte knocked out Szpilka instead of Chisora. LMAO.

If I were a cu.nt like you, I would've used that to question your knowledge of boxing since brownie points is what most of you pricks on here are after. I'm off to Warsaw next month to see Lewandoski. Wanna leave Newcastle and get on the voyage with me? LMAO.

What kind of sad loser puts someone on ignore then discusses their comments after reading them in other peoples quotes?

And you are using my mistake to question my knowledge of boxing, so you are a cunt like me. I would think about leaving Newcastle and going on a cunt's trip to Warsaw with you, except that I'm not in Newcastle, so I'll have to pass on that.

Have a good voyage, and I'll see you when you get back. Though you won't see me, of course, unless it's in somebody else's quote again.

[deathofaclown]

Anyone that’s followed Fury’s career know he often lowers and raises his game depending on opponent.

I’ve watched him long enough to know not to judge him on one fight

He always raises his game once the opponent is a real threat, Wilder will find out again

[QueensburyRules]

I see no evidence of this I see the usual champion taking a challenger lightly and a challenger fighting the fight of their life, using a great set of skills from an advanced trainer, and getting a bit lucky and still losing.



I saw a less sharp Fury than usual, punches were slower, that tells me he trained less on teh bag and mitts etc, it looks like he didnt train as hard for this fight as for the Deontay fight, but isnt that to be expected?


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He is also talking about targeting the cut scar and skin in general to get a win that way.

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Is this all part of the build up?

Reminds me of the WWE

- -I smell a kid full on overflow of his big boy trainers.

[champion4ever]

Personally, I think Tyson Fury's career is over. He's done. One can see what can happen to a fighter overnight. His career can end in just one fight.

No matter what, Fury will never be the same fighter again. Top rank made a huge mistake in cashing this kid out and over marinating the Wilder rematch. It destroyed his health.

Now it may never happen and if it does happen Deontay will ruin him. Bob did the very exact same thing with Juan Manuel Lopez and Yuriorkis Gamboa.

Which was another fight that did not happen due to Arum's procrastination and poor judgement.

[4truth]

Everyone is talking about Wallin as if they know him. Wallin has fought a lot of club level fighters and he's fought Fury. Fury is very good but he's a bit of a freak. He is nothing like anyone else in the division so it is really difficult to say exactly what Wallin is on the basis of his fight with Fury.

For one thing, Fury hasn't got much power relative to the rest of the division, so he didn't test Wallin's chin. Another is that Fury spent a lot of time leaning on Wallin, wearing him down and it showed but does that mean Wallin has stamina issues? I'm not so sure. Let's see Wallin vs someone like Hammer or Rivas or Breazeale before we start defining his place in the HW hierarchy.